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davros

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Elf Aethercrafting
« on: August 12, 2011, 08:07:54 pm »

I gave the elves a custom metal they can make to make their ambushes more deadly, but when their caravan appears, or when I play one as an adventurer, they start off with other metals. Please help.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 09:07:22 pm »

Prevent them from being able to access metalsmithing and metal ores, and give them a custom reaction that results in the special metal.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2011, 01:30:27 am »

I did. They can't even dig. They get the metal via a custom workshop, if that makes any difference.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2011, 06:57:49 am »

so you got rid of furnace operator? you can leave the metalsmithing skills, just as long as they have the reaction they can make it. I'm sure
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2011, 11:06:27 am »

They don't get it through metalsmithing. It uses the MAGIC_NATURE skill.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2011, 10:21:43 am »

Help!
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2011, 11:31:50 am »

What other metals?
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 11:42:34 pm »

steel,copper,all kinds of stuff.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 12:33:13 pm »

Try taking away their custom reactions for steel/bronze, and remove the [PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]

Finally, create a custom reaction that creates your metal, then give them [PERMITTED_REACTION:(said reaction name)] This will allow them to make the metal regardless of whether they can mine or not.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 02:15:53 pm »

In my experience, that sort of thing happens as a failsafe of sorts. Your metal has the ITEMS_WEAPON tag?
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 10:02:39 pm »

I think so. They don't have any other metals, so they should just be using this stuff.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 11:08:05 pm »

I don't have a problem with this with my troll mod, and it uses special metals, so I'm just going to post the raws pertaining to this problem from that.

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[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]
[AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PIKE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_2H]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MAUL]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_GREAT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FLAIL]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MORNINGSTAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCIMITAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SICKLE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CLAWS]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_LANCE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CLUB]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CLUB_WOOD]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_TRIDENT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CANE]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_BREASTPLATE:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_COAT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TOGA:UNCOMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CAPE:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_DRESS:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_ROBE:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_TURBAN:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_MASK:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_FACE:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_SCARF_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GAUNTLETS:COMMON]
[GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GLOVES:COMMON]
[GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_MITTENS:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SANDAL:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_CHAUSSE:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LOINCLOTH:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_THONG:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_SHORT:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_LONG:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_BRAIES:UNCOMMON]
[SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD]
[SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
[SIEGEAMMO:ITEM_SIEGEAMMO_BALLISTA]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_CAULDRON]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LADLE]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BOWL]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_MORTAR]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_PESTLE]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_CARVING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_BONING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_SLICING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_MEAT_CLEAVER]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_FORK_CARVING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_NEST_BOX]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_JUG]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LARGE_POT]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_HIVE]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:EGG_TO_ROCK_WORKSHOP]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:EGG_TO_METAL_FURNACE]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:EGG_TO_METAL_FURNACE_MAGMA]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SAWMILL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:CUT_WOOD]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_HIDE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RENDER_FAT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP_FROM_TALLOW]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP_FROM_OIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_BRICKS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_LARGE_CLAY_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_CRAFTS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_LARGE_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_CRAFT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_OIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_HIVE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_HONEYCOMB]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CRAFTS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MEAD]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_SHARP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_HEAVY]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_COAL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_VALUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SHARPHEAVY_TO_ARMOR]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_SHARP_MAGMA]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_HEAVY_MAGMA]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_COAL_MAGMA] ?!?!
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_VALUE_MAGMA]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SHARPHEAVY_TO_ARMOR_MAGMA]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_CHEAP]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:SLAUGHTER_TO_CHEAP_MAGMA]

Note especially the lack of the [DIGGER:x] tag and all the reactions that create bars of various metals (SLAUGHTER_TO_X).

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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 12:03:23 am »

That looks like the elves raws. I'll have to double check.
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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 01:13:10 am »

That looks like the elves raws. I'll have to double check.

The ones I posted? No, those are raws from my mod. I'm just showing them as an example of a creature that has only the metal given to it through reactions.

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Re: Elf Aethercrafting
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011, 06:16:44 pm »

after large amounts of dicking around, I finaly tried your idea. No dice.
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I had an above ground garden built in the grounds of my castle and two young dwarves spent time socialising there over the summer and at the end of the summer they were in love. Remember those long summers of your childhood? That first kiss in the gardens while crossbows dwarves shoot goblins above your head? The rain of dead birds as the hunters get to work? Truly Spearhills is a paradise.
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