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Jimmy

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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2017, 09:02:30 am »

The joke goes that if you read the news we've got a cure for any disease coming in the next 5 years, for the last 40 years.
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« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2017, 09:22:36 am »

The joke goes that if you read the news we've got a cure for any disease coming in the next 5 years, for the last 40 years.

Give an individual 72 years, and the the odds say any and every disease won't be a problem any more.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2017, 10:18:44 am »

Considering this wast posted 6 years ago and people are still getting viruses I take it the drug wasn't that great after all.
you're both completely unaware of drug development cycles and unwilling to read the provided links...
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« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2017, 11:20:07 am »

Considering this wast posted 6 years ago and people are still getting viruses I take it the drug wasn't that great after all.
you're both completely unaware of drug development cycles and unwilling to read the provided links...

92% of the drugs that reach the clinical stage do not reach the market. I just assumed it had failed somewhere along the way.

This drug is stuck on its funding for preclinical animal testing. So yeah they might still make it, but the odds are about 20 to 1.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2017, 11:42:06 am »

The odds are long, but the problem at the moment is lack of funding. Doesnt mean that it's a failure per se. At this point we might never know if it is...

BTW the statistics for biologicals are far better.
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« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2017, 06:44:30 am »

Considering this wast posted 6 years ago and people are still getting viruses I take it the drug wasn't that great after all.
I thought this thread was from today up until I read this post.

I guess that says something about the speed of medical research.
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« Reply #96 on: August 29, 2017, 01:16:03 pm »

Considering this wast posted 6 years ago and people are still getting viruses I take it the drug wasn't that great after all.
I thought this thread was from today up until I read this post.

I guess that says something about the speed of medical research.
Yup.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #97 on: August 29, 2017, 01:24:28 pm »

Considering this wast posted 6 years ago and people are still getting viruses I take it the drug wasn't that great after all.
I thought this thread was from today up until I read this post.

I guess that says something about the speed of medical research.
Not really, it tells us something about the lengthy procedures to get new procedures and drugs approved.
If you invent a medicine that cures all cancer 100% today, it will at least take another 15 years if not more before it gets past all trials and approvals
EDIT: (in fact, if you invented a drug that cures all cancers, you'd probably never get it approved. Too many financial interests at stake)
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #98 on: August 30, 2017, 10:56:16 am »


 if you invented a drug that cures all cancers, you'd probably never get it approved. Too many financial interests at stake
In other news, Novartis invents a cure for all cancers.

Well, not quite, but it's a start. It puts 99% of B cell leukemias into remission. And it's a proof of concept of the technology, which can be used to target other tumors as well. Solid tumors, even.

Full news item:

FDA gives Novartis the go ahead to marketing their propietary CART cell therapy. The first one of many.

https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm574058.htm
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« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2017, 07:48:16 pm »

I'll believe it cures all cancers when it cures anime
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2017, 02:27:47 am »

 I'm pretty sure that's not a virus. Posting to watch.

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« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2017, 02:43:20 am »

CART therapies are reprogrammed leukocytes. Viruses might be involved in the reprogramming, but it is the reprogrammed leukocytes that are the active agent here.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2017, 09:40:21 am »

We've researched Retroviral engineering, but we still don't have an Empath's guild and Psionics.

I was lied to.  :(
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« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2017, 09:42:27 am »

We've researched Retroviral engineering, but we still don't have an Empath's guild and Psionics.

I was lied to.  :(

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« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2017, 10:21:44 am »

Plus there's the part where we screw up because we didn't know what we're doing. The faster you go, the higher the risk.

In any case, when there's a cure for lifestyle diseases, I'll get excited. Before that, people will smoke, eat and drink themselves sick no matter what you do.
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