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Nadaka

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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2011, 05:03:32 pm »

Hold on, gotta go barricade my home.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2011, 05:04:45 pm »

I guess we ought to be inventing new steam technology to combat the zombies.
Steam powered flame throwers?
Clockwork chain saws?
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 05:11:21 pm »

Steam powered flame throwers?
Steam boiler with release valve. Done.


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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2011, 05:11:53 pm »

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

I'm like... wow.  Tears, running all over my face.  This is bloody amazing.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2011, 05:14:57 pm »

For the second "viral cure" thing, I'm still pretty skeptical.  I wouldn't be surprised if most of our cells have some (harmless) virus, or some left over DNA from some virus that infected one of our ancestors and accidentally got integrated into our genome. 

I'll believe it more when they inject a person with it and the person doesn't start shedding their skin as every cell in their body dies.   :P

The Leukemia thing sounds a bit more plausible to me.  I hope that turns out to be something.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2011, 05:15:56 pm »

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

I'm like... wow.  Tears, running all over my face.  This is bloody amazing.
Calm down a little Vector. Sad to say, spectacular results most often means still in trial stage. Were talking about some serious chemistry here, so these trails are likely to go for quiet a few years in order to test long term repercussions. Cancer, for example, is biologically very hard to tell from the rest of the human, so you should be very sceptical about anything that attacks it, because the last thing you want is to then kill the human in the process.

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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2011, 05:18:24 pm »

Immunotherapy has been around for a while. Autoimmunity is a real concern, though. In the melanoma article they mentioned how they had screened forsuch hsppenings in the recipients afterwards (none was found. Of course this does not prove that it can't hsppen)

I think that article was open access in the nejm, googling it now...
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2011, 05:19:07 pm »

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

I'm like... wow.  Tears, running all over my face.  This is bloody amazing.

I also remember reading in a Smithsonian magazine a few months ago about how another team of scientists cured an acute form of leukemia, I believe it was AML. Just so I don't get told that "it's still in the trial stages, don't get too hyped", the team has been testing it for 10 years with good results all around.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2011, 05:20:29 pm »

No.  I am not calming down.  First gay marriage in New York and hitting the 50% approval line, then better chances of aliens, then curing both cancer and the common cold maybe sort of.

I WILL NEVER BE CALM AGAIN.

*huff huff*

Now I'm just waiting on Riemann's.  Come on, mathematicians.  Get your asses in gear.

Well, okay, and a functioning US government.  Come on, taxpayers.  Get your asses in gear.


And seriously, buckos, I am one of those stereotypical weeping women.  I got it from my father.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2011, 05:20:49 pm »

Sadly, all of these drugs will probably remain out of the open market for the next two decades or so, and that's after the FDA finally approves them. Plus, most pharmaceutical companies would probably avoid carrying them, as a cured patient is a patient that doesn't have to buy anything else from you. They want people sick, not healthy or dead, because that means profits.

It's really too bad. One of my uncles died of leukemia, among some other things, earlier this year. Perhaps he'd still be alive if this were on the market already. Trial stages this, trial stages that, it's always with the fucking trial stages. Never do I hear about a treatment actually getting implemented.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2011, 05:23:01 pm »

MSH, my friends dad has been working with fifteen other researchers for the past twelve years to get their herpes cure to market. No dice yet, even though it has been entirely safe and effective so far. Trial stages are intense.
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2011, 05:25:35 pm »

Here's the article about melanoma t cell therapy


http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0800251#t=articleTop


Anyways, yeah, a lot of fascinating work is being done, and we live in interesting times


That being said, its worth noting thst bone marrow transplantation has been around for a while and is often curative in hematological malignancies (if quite aggresive).




Re: MSH, that,s likely because you have not checked the right sources. I assure you that treatments do get implemented.Take Provenge, for instance. Or Avastin. Or bevacizumab
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2011, 05:26:31 pm »

Whoa this is pretty cool, As far as I know the common cold wasn't even curable in Star Trek
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2011, 05:26:49 pm »

Now watch, as Big Pharma Lobbyists gets this outlawed in the US and potentially the rest of the developed world too!
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Re: Medical breakthroughs
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2011, 05:27:33 pm »

Im just saying, this could be the cause of the eventual zombie apocalypse.
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