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[Mazonas]

So I have this dwarf.

He's rather pus-covered and blistery right now.




Having checked his health screen, it seems the only history he has is of being washed in the hospital.  He had no further treatment there, so I would assume his injuries were not severe.  He was, however, washed with...



Logem, now retired and renamed "Patient 1", is the only dwarf in my fortress with these blisters.  He is also the only dwarf who has been washed with the soap.  Only one bar was made, and the remaining tallow has not been used for cooking AFAIK (I forbade the tallow after noticing poor Logem).

My questions are this.

1- I did not think that syndromes from forgotten beasts could transfer to products made from their corpses.  Was I wrong?
2- Is there a potential other reason why he might be covered in blisters?  No one else is, not even the military who butchered the beast in close combat.
3- Assuming the soap/tallow is the cause.  CAN I WEAPONISE THIS?  Would burning tallow transfer the syndrome to the smoke?

[EmperorJon]

Er... I've... wow. I've never seen this before.

[Deus Machina]

I can't comment on whether or not it's viable or he just got unlucky or has allergies, but...

1- I did not think that syndromes from forgotten beasts could transfer to products made from their corpses.  Was I wrong?
2- Is there a potential other reason why he might be covered in blisters?  No one else is, not even the military who butchered the beast in close combat.
3- Assuming the soap/tallow is the cause.  CAN I WEAPONISE THIS?  Would burning tallow transfer the syndrome to the smoke?

I like your train of thought.

[Mazonas]

Oh crap.  Just remembered I traded some awesome meals a couple of seasons ago.



Which means, potentially, other meals were made containing the tallow before I forbade it.  But if it wasn't the main ingredient they won't show up.

[EmperorJon]

Ingestion syndromes will be include in the next release, AFAIK.

[Mazonas]

Ingestion syndromes will be include in the next release, AFAIK.

Well I don't have to worry about the food, at least.

Is anyone able to confirm whether the soap could have caused the syndrome?  I really am at a loss, here.

[Urist Da Vinci]

Is anyone able to confirm whether the soap could have caused the syndrome?  I really am at a loss, here.

No, it didn't. The dwarf was in the hospital, being washed, because he was already infected. It seems like you killed a FB. That FB, or another one, probably had a syndrome that caused this. Please go into the units menu and post your FB descriptions (this works even for dead ones).

[Skorpion]

Dear god. SEAL HIM IN BEFORE HE ROTS

[Mazonas]

Is anyone able to confirm whether the soap could have caused the syndrome?  I really am at a loss, here.

No, it didn't. The dwarf was in the hospital, being washed, because he was already infected. It seems like you killed a FB. That FB, or another one, probably had a syndrome that caused this. Please go into the units menu and post your FB descriptions (this works even for dead ones).

Huh.  So how come the military dorfs haven't been ill?  I mean, there were some mild, mundane injuries but they're all still fine. 

Rithesa Finerasanene Idi Meli
A great eyeless crow.  It has a long, swinging trunk and it undulates rhythmically. Its gold feathers are long and broad.  Beware its poisonous gas!  -fought by melee dwarfs, came into close contact with it and all are fine.

Loslal
A huge skinless iguana.  It has wings and it is slathering.  Beware its deadly blood!  -did not come into contact with dwarfs.  Died of magma when it tried to destroy a working pump stack.

Ner
A towering, feathered assassin bug. It has wings and it is slathering.  Its blue feathers are patchy.  Beware its noxious secretions!

Usnos Osnongaru
An enormous, beakless oriole. It has three stubby horns and it has a bloated body.  Beware its noxious secretions!

Both

also killed by melee dwarfs, corpses butchered and they both died at the hallway into the caverns, so many dwarfs wandered through the area afterwards.  No other dwarfs are affected by the blisters though, so I don't know what is going on.

Dear god. SEAL HIM IN BEFORE HE ROTS

He's actually in a pretty good mood at the moment.  Must be the nice dining room.

[Captain Insano]

Heh this sounds quite interesting.

[AWdeV]

I bet the dwarf was allergic.

[slothen]

military dwarves with full armor may not have extract touch their skin, in which case they will be fine.  I highly doubt the soap is the culprit.  If those dwarves wash at a well however, extract will be left on the floor at the well, which could contaminate other dwarfs that are barefoot.  If he was in bed, resting, when he was washed, then I have no idea how this happened.

However I have seen something like this before.

In a previous fort I had a little trench of 2/7 water that dwarfs stepped through to decontaminate themselves before entering the fortress.  Every dwarf that stepped in knocked all his blood pus, mud, and vomit into the square where he stepped, and every body part would then be 'water covered' before evaporating dry.  This trench method worked, but not without a hitch.  Once I killed a forgotten beast and a civillian stepped in the extract.  He was a naked civilian since DWARVES WON'T WEAR NEW CLOTHES, and he quickly rushed to the hospital to rest.  contact with the skin caused numbness, dizziness, and even blindness, as well as bleeding.  He trailed blood all the way to the hospital, through the decontamination trench.  When he arrived at the hospital he was all clean but remained bedridden.  The forgotten beast extract was left in the trench.  Mission accomplished right?  Wrong.  20 seconds later I see my hospital is FULL of bleeding, dizzy, blind dwarves.  They're even resting on the ground because my hospital (with 10 fully equiped all-glass quarantine-ready rooms) is out of beds.  I follow the blood back to the decontamination trench.

It turns out that EVERY dwarf that stepped in the 2/7 water with the 'pool of extract' in it would be, for 1 step of game time, covered head to toe in extract, before being completely washed again by the water.  Thus any dwarf that stepped into that spot became contaminated and instantly clean in the same instant.  Importantly, the extract did not spread from that single tile.  That brief contamination was enough to turn all my dwarves yellow head to toe and blind, however all of them made a full recovery due to the briefness of their exposure.  I set the contaminated tile to restricted traffic, and it was soon cleaned up by a passing dwarf.

Judging from your dwarf's injuries, I would think something similar happened in your fortress.

[slothen]

double post

[Mazonas]

military dwarves with full armor may not have extract touch their skin, in which case they will be fine.  I highly doubt the soap is the culprit.  If those dwarves wash at a well however, extract will be left on the floor at the well, which could contaminate other dwarfs that are barefoot.  If he was in bed, resting, when he was washed, then I have no idea how this happened.

However I have seen something like this before.

In a previous fort I had a little trench of 2/7 water that dwarfs stepped through to decontaminate themselves before entering the fortress.  Every dwarf that stepped in knocked all his blood pus, mud, and vomit into the square where he stepped, and every body part would then be 'water covered' before evaporating dry.  This trench method worked, but not without a hitch.  Once I killed a forgotten beast and a civillian stepped in the extract.  He was a naked civilian since DWARVES WON'T WEAR NEW CLOTHES, and he quickly rushed to the hospital to rest.  contact with the skin caused numbness, dizziness, and even blindness, as well as bleeding.  He trailed blood all the way to the hospital, through the decontamination trench.  When he arrived at the hospital he was all clean but remained bedridden.  The forgotten beast extract was left in the trench.  Mission accomplished right?  Wrong.  20 seconds later I see my hospital is FULL of bleeding, dizzy, blind dwarves.  They're even resting on the ground because my hospital (with 10 fully equiped all-glass quarantine-ready rooms) is out of beds.  I follow the blood back to the decontamination trench.

It turns out that EVERY dwarf that stepped in the 2/7 water with the 'pool of extract' in it would be, for 1 step of game time, covered head to toe in extract, before being completely washed again by the water.  Thus any dwarf that stepped into that spot became contaminated and instantly clean in the same instant.  Importantly, the extract did not spread from that single tile.  That brief contamination was enough to turn all my dwarves yellow head to toe and blind, however all of them made a full recovery due to the briefness of their exposure.  I set the contaminated tile to restricted traffic, and it was soon cleaned up by a passing dwarf.

Judging from your dwarf's injuries, I would think something similar happened in your fortress.

Ah O_o

You might be right.  And that sounds horrible! dorfy!

[Yoink]

"Don't worry, guys! It's just a rash!"