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[Demonic Spoon]

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Candles of invocation are cheape-

*ohgodinfiniteloopofsolargatingtellmywifeIloveherAAARGH!*

[Shoruke]

Candles of Invocation are also more awkward to carry, only last for like four hours tops, and- this is key right here- don't confer skill ranks, just a bonus.

[Demonic Spoon]

...you missed the last part of the candle of invocation's powers.

In addition, burning a candle also allows the owner to cast a gate spell, the respondent being of the same alignment as the candle

Step 1: Gate in a solar.
Step 2: Have that solar gate in another solar.
Step 3: Repeat step 2 ad nauseum.
Step 4: Inherent bonuses up the wazoo thanks to solar's wish.
Step 5: ? ? ? Summon lots of wealth with wish.
Step 6: Profit! 

[RedWarrior0]

...you missed the last part of the candle of invocation's powers.

In addition, burning a candle also allows the owner to cast a gate spell, the respondent being of the same alignment as the candle

Step 1: Gate in a solar.
Step 2: Have that solar gate in another solar.
Step 3: Repeat step 2 ad nauseum.
Step 4: Inherent bonuses up the wazoo thanks to solar's wish.
Step 5: ? ? ? Summon lots of wealth with wish.
Step 6: Profit! 

Not in this campaign. WotC seemed to neglect the fact that Gating in a creature costs XP.

And Inherents only go up to +5 regardless.

Oh, and while we're on the topic of ludicrosity, Wish doesn't have a limit on value of magical items, and SLAs have no XP costs.

[RAM]

You can only control a gated creature if it is up to twice your caster-level in hit dice and is not unique. It is not too far of a strentch for a D.M. to say that Solars are the generals of the good-aligned armies and are considered 'unique' for the purposes of the gate spell. Also, your caster-level would need to be at least 11, more if it happened to grab an advanced solar... Additionally, Solars are neutral good, to summon one with a candle of invocation the creator of the candle would need to be neutral good, able to cast gate, and would need to surrender it to you, which is not likely. Finally, if you try this, you are abducting powerful interplanar beings and expending their resources by force. I very much doubt that you can fend off their personal guard long enough to finish negotiating the terms of their contract...

[Shoruke]

Considering that the minimum caster level for Wish is 17, the candles are indeed able to control Solars... for almost three and a half minutes. Not bad. Asking for their help for longer will require you to pay them in money. Or cows.

As for the exp cost, wouldn't the creator of the candle just have to pay the extra exp when (s)he's making the item? Then we would have Gate-capable candles and non-gate-capable candles.

I wonder if you can buy a cheaper one that doesn't have the Gating power, and has a convenient way to carry it into combat (preferably not involving holding it in your hand)... I suppose there's that amulet of infinite Mage Hand...

[King_of_the_weasels]

How about instead of figuring out how to break the game, we just play it and have fun.

Speaking of which, game tonight?

[RedWarrior0]

Server is up. Yes, there is a game tonight.

[RedWarrior0]

Game starts (probably) in five minutes.

[Dwarmin]

Heh, nice.

[RAM]

Game over man, game over!

More to the point, is it possible to tie them together and have one candle that burns for days. I mean, the thing gives you an extra spell level, that is pretty much unheard of powerful... Throw in some divine persistent cheese and you could stink out the hole of civilisation...

[Shoruke]

I was quite late to the game, so I'm rather fuzzy on what happened before "partway through the fight with the Ravager". I assume that Veshnoal had time to write the previous journal entry, and did so. And I totally made a sketch of the Ravager before I burned its corpse.
Totally.
Hush.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Day 7, evening.
*there is a drawing of a strange creature, with very sharp claws*
-very, very durable
-possibly extraplanar?
-strikes rapidly

We made camp, and began to interrogate the Dwarf we had taken hostage; during the interrogation, some kind of Aberration came out of the woods and attacked us. It was extremely tough, and very strong; it actually knocked Adler out of the fight for a moment, but Kevkul resuscitated him with his mind powers. Lance was also injured in the fight, but I healed him with magic. The thing took serious effort to kill; even when my teammates distracted it and I landed blow after clean blow on its weak points, it kept on fighting. Even when Kevkul stunned it with his powers, its toughened hide warded my attacks. Eventually, though, it gave out under our onslaught. The teachings of the Sublime Way were helpful here; with my Island of Blades stance, I was able to co-ordinate with the rest of my team flawlessly, so that it was never able to defend itself properly against any of us.

As for the interrogation, I've made a few observations. Most of them are made on the assumption that the Dwarf isn't lying to us in what may be his final moments; we've promised to properly bury him, so he should be slightly more co-operative, and Adler was very convincing with his threats of slow death by Dwarfbane poison. Regardless, I take the hostage's words with a grain of salt.

The situation as I understand it:
-This Dwarf worked at a mercenary firm in South Dwarfia. His superior in the organization received an order that he be pulled out of his normal troupe, and join with two other Dwarves for a job. They didn't talk about their personal lives. The rogue (the one with the poisons, who can deliver an instant-kill strike) was apparently the leader. Their plan, from our captive's point of view, was to head south, look for Lord Urist, and kill him as soon as they saw him.
-The human we saw earlier, Carl of the Forest, was offering to help them kill Lord Urist, apparently, but fled when he heard us approaching. I will impress on our bard, once again, the importance of silence while we are on the hunt. Anyway, Carl is one of the very bandits that we are hunting; he was allied with Batta, at the very least, and I seem to recall something about there being several hideouts, instead of just one.
-Shortly after their passing through the town of Empire, this group of Dwarves also received a Sending about the impending Dwarven clan wars.

My observations and inferences:
-This group was very expendable. They had no plan of attack, and no plan to escape, either, so presumably once they were done the deed nobody would care if they were caught. I bet the rogue was paid by someone else. This group is not near the top of the chain of command... which leaves us in a worrisome position, since we don't know who IS trying to have us killed. (although, the captive said that Clan Urist had acted aggresively towards Patriarch Morul...)
-despite their expendability, this group was obviously in the need-to-know loop, considering that they received a sending about the clan wars before we did. They received it just as they left Empire; that's several days away, even on horseback, and we only got ours a day or two ago.
-whoever put this group of Dwarves together was more professional than their hirelings. He selected three unacquainted Dwarves, from different mercenary groups, and sent them along the path we were traversing... with instructions not to talk to each other about their personal lives. This was probably a psychological ploy against his (or her) hirelings, so that they would not do anything rash to save their friends if the plan (such as it was) went poorly. They shared little valuable information with each other... which means, with the rogue dead, there is precious little information to extract from our captive. At least we know to be vigilant.
-this group was dispatched to hunt down Lord Urist before they, or we, received a Sending about the escalating tension among the Dwarves. Someone is taking an aggressive stance towards Lord Urist. Again, our only lead is the name "Patriarch Morul".

Adler has a theory, based on my theory, that the Ravager we fought today was a normal person who had drunk one of these Tears of the Obyriths potions. We can't prove it either way. But if it's true, then it's possible the rogue was carrying another potion with him, and neglecting to drink it himself, to make himself an ally out of an enemy while abroad... or to make progress towards raising an army of monsters.
Again, pure speculation. But it is a worrying thought.

As for our captive? We'll probably kill him, and give him the burial he requested. He is more or less useless to us now, and we would expend precious time, effort, and resources keeping him alive but bound. Even if we let him go, he would have no option but to return to his mercenary regiment in failure and shame, to suffer the displeasure of his captain... and whoever this mysterious person is that hired him. Perhaps it is a mercy to spare him that. Who knows?

...I'd sleep easier if I knew.

Also, the SRD Prestige Classes. Two of them interest me.
Loremaster: full caster progression, Lore (great for fluff, AND finding "rumours" of untold riches!), plus some Secrets, I'd basically start taking this PrC instead of further Archivist levels as soon as I can. Also, free Identify spells if I get to level 6 in that class.
Shadowdancer: Hide in Plain Sight (somewhat useful, pretty cool), (Improved?) Uncanny Dodge, and at level 3 they get a shade to serve them. I would roleplay it as being able to attack people with my own shadow. "Ha ha ha... HAHAHAHAHA! What's the matter? SCARED OF THE DARKNESS?!" (obviously used as a cool-headed, pragmatic way to strike fear into the hearts of the enemies, demoralizing them into submission)

And what was the exp from that fight?

[Heron TSG]

Well, this should be the last session I miss for a while. I got roped into running the sound equipment at a football game, and didn't get back until this game was over. 

Also, I'm working on a backup character. This character will probably die horribly when we get to some difficult fights.

[RAM]

Macro time again, this is for all you manifesters out there(some assembly required...)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Code: (Macro for manually adjusting current power points) [Select]

[h,macro("Max_PP@TOKEN"):""]
[h:max_PP=macro.return]
[h:status=input("spent||points to spend")]
[h:abort(status)]
[r,if(0>defense-spent):"Failed to manifest "]
[t,if(0>defense-spent):spent]
[r,if(0>defense-spent):" Point power, "]
[t,if(0>defense-spent):defense]
[r,if(0>defense-spent):" power points is insufficient for this power.<br>"]
[h,if(0>defense-spent):spent=0]
[h,if(defense-spent>max_PP):spent=0-max_PP+defense]
[h:defense=defense-spent]
Spends [t:spent] power points and has [t:defense] remaining.Stuff that requires editing from time-to-time, typically upon changing character-level. I put them in the "Traits" group to keep it out of the way.

Code: (Manifester_Level) [Select]

[h:level=5]
[h:max_overchannel=1]

[h:overchannel=max_overchannel]
[h,for(i,max_overchannel-1,0,-1,""):overchannel=overchannel+","+i]
[h:temp=input("use_overchannel|0|Using overchannel|CHECK",
  "overchannel_bonus|"+overchannel+"|Raise M.L. by|LIST|VALUE=STRING",
  "use_talented|0|Using talented|CHECK")]
[h:abort(temp)]

[h,if(use_overchannel):level=level+overchannel_bonus]
[r,if(use_overchannel&&use_talented):"Psionic focus has been lost.<br>"]
[e,if(use_overchannel&&use_talented==0),CODE:{
  ["Overchannel inflicts "]
  [t:damage=eval(overchannel_bonus*2-1+"d8")]
  ["points of damage. "]
  [e:HP=HP-damage]
  <br>
};{}]

[h:macro.return=level]


Code: (Max_PP) [Select]

[macro.return=40]


Code: (Meta_Feats) [Select]

[h:number=2]
[h:names="burrowing,widen"]
[h:costs="2,4"]
[h:effects="Burrows through objects,Double area of effect"]

[h:output=json.set("{}","number",number)]
[h,for(n,0,number,1,""),CODE:{
  [h:output=json.set(output,"name"+n,listGet(names,n))]
  [h:output=json.set(output,"cost"+n,listGet(costs,n))]
  [h:output=json.set(output,"effect"+n,listGet(effects,n))]
}]

[h:macro.return=output]This one can be forgotten, as it shouldn't ever need to change. I put it in the "under" group because they are arranged in alphabetical order...
It uses the defense character variable to track power points.
It has one argument, the number of power points to deduct.
If there are enough power points it reduces the current power points and outputs the remaining power points, otherwise it outputs -1...
There is an obvious and easily corrected error within, however, it works and therefore I am not touching it...

Code: (Spend_Points) [Select]

[h:spent=macro.args]
[h,macro("Max_PP@TOKEN"):""]
[h:max_PP=macro.return]
[r,if(0>defense-spent),CODE:{
  [h:macro.return=-1]
};{
  [h:defense=defense-spent]
  [h:macro.return=defense]
}]
This was placed this in a "powers" group. It should be fairly possible to change it to suit many different psionic powers...

Code: (Template for Power macro) [Select]

/self
[h:power_level=1]

[e,macro("Manifester_Level@TOKEN"):""]
[h:ML=macro.return]
[h:cost=power_level*2-1]

[h:aug1_list=0]
[h:aug1_desc="PP for extra dice"]
[h:augment_rate=1]
[h,for(n,augment_rate,ML-cost+1,augment_rate,""):aug1_list=aug1_list+","+n]

[e,macro("Meta_Feats@TOKEN"):""]
[h:feats=macro.return]
[h:feat_input=""]
[h,for(n,0,json.get(feats,"number"),1,""):feat_input=feat_input+',"feat'+n+'|0|'+json.get(feats,'name'+n)+' for '+json.get(feats,'cost'+n)+'PP'+'|CHECK"']

[h:temp=eval('input("victim|"+getVisibleTokenNames()+"|Target|LIST|VALUE=STRING",
  "points1|"+aug1_list+"|"+aug1_desc+"|LIST|VALUE=STRING"
  '+feat_input+'
  ,"temp|"+ML+"|Maximum combined PP cost|LABEL")'
)]
[h:abort(temp)]

[h:cost=cost+points1]
[h,for(n,0,json.get(feats,"number"),1,""),CODE:{
  [h,if(eval("feat"+n)):cost=cost+json.get(feats,"cost"+n)]
}]

[e,if(cost>ML),CODE:{
  [h:temp=input("temp||Insufficient manifester level.|LABEL|TEXT=FALSE")]
  [h:abort(0)]
};{
}]
[h,macro("Spend_Points@TOKEN"):cost]
[e,if(macro.return==-1),CODE:{
  [h:temp=input("temp||Insufficient power points.|LABEL|TEXT=FALSE")]
  [h:abort(0)]
};{
  [h:remaining_points=macro.return]
}]

[h:DC=10+power_level+floor(Intelligence/2-5)+floor(points1/2)]


A power is manifested, [r:Victim] may make a DC [r:DC] reflex save for half of [t:eval(1+points1+"d6")] damage.<br>This will over-come a power resistance of [t:1d20+ML].

[r,for(n,0,json.get(feats,"number"),1,""),CODE:{
  [r,if(eval("feat"+n)):"<br>"+json.get(feats,"effect"+n)]
}]
<br>Spent a total of [r:cost] power-points, [remaining_points] remain.

P.S.
  Does mindthrusting the ravager count as making "peaceful contact with a psudonatural creature." I mean, we both made our saves...

[Heron TSG]

Yo, Red! Are you cool with Ardents and these Alternate Class Features that make them not suck?