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[G-Flex]

This has nothing to do with copyrights or copyright law. Copyright law is completely irrelevant

PARADOX!

... What?

[counting]

This has nothing to do with copyrights or copyright law. Copyright law is completely irrelevant

PARADOX!

... What?

G-Flex, don't bother discuss something serious with Neonivek, who thinks even the law is a joke. He clearly has no idea what Intellectual Property is, let alone to distinguish copyright from trademark.

[kaijyuu]

Even the more egregious of the accusations launched at Notch I fail to see as "bad." Why is him milking this for publicity somehow a terrible thing? I know I'd do the same without a second thought.


Certainly, Bethesda's getting scathed a bit but it's hardly undeserving and it's definitely not going to sink their company. If this gets a large amount of publicity, hopefully it'll discourage other companies (or their legal representation, if you prefer) from making similar silly claims. "Frivolous" is a word I've used twice in this thread already and I'll probably use again.

[Neonivek]

Where Bethesda is now they could kill someone and not have it effect their sales. They won't be affected by this in anyway... heck it might even be beneficial.

What?

Huh? Ohhh, I thought that was obvious given the underlines, what I meant was

G-Flex, don't bother discuss something serious with Neonivek, who thinks even the law is a joke. He clearly has no idea what Intellectual Property is, let alone to distinguish copyright from trademark

Ohhh really now? Well as long as I have the call to dismiss anything I say.

Edit addition

Wait a minute... Joke... where did I see joke before?

remember that laws/lawsuits certainly are not jokes

Dang it! You ENTIRELY missed the point of what I said if your harping on my statement that people treat lawsuits without respect and thusly abuse the laws they are structured around.

Well now that I know the source I am no longer insulted by its presence. Now as for you G-Flex, it really is all in the underline.

[G-Flex]

Could you please explain in plain English what you meant? It's not as clear as you seem to think, and I'm pretty goddamn confused. How is "copyright law" a paradox? Is that what you're saying? What exactly are you saying?

[kaijyuu]

I haven't a clue what he's going on about either.

[G-Flex]

That entire last post of his was so jumbled I'm pretty sure it all actually happened simultaneously in his mind. More like web-of-consciousness than stream-of-consciousness, I guess.

[counting]

He is just trolling. Don't bother reasoning He is being Notch-ish.

[Neonivek]

That entire last post of his was so jumbled I'm pretty sure it all actually happened simultaneously in his mind. More like web-of-consciousness than stream-of-consciousness, I guess.

Ohh, well it was badly structured but you said what I said wasn't about Copyrightright law, and that copyright law has nothing to do with the discussion.

Which sounded a lot more silly at the time (It sounded like "This discussion is about Copyright and Copyright law. Copyright Law has NOTHING to do with this discussion". Hense the Paradox)

[G-Flex]

So you misread me. Carry on then, because my head hurts.

[Rooster]

It would be awesome if Bethesda agreed to the Quake 3 match.
Just think how much publicity would they get.

[Phmcw]

So, what will be the process who will say if scroll is an acceptable name? And how does it work?

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It would be awesome if Bethesda agreed to the Quake 3 match.
Just think how much publicity would they get.

If you know that the legal representatives (Bethesda's IP lawyers firms) of Zenimax are 2 of the world top 5 leading trademark law firms (DLA Piper and Bird & Bird), then you will know it's highly unlikely and probably an insult to them.

And people tend to think that Bethesda needs this kind of PR as if they have not already put millions into PR the upcoming Skyrim. I don't think the added PR value will be valid for the risk of losing their IP rights and credibility since they already spent millions in protecting them.

If Bethesda do accept this insane game, their are telling others that their previous pursuit of IP rights are invalid as Notch claims, and encouraging others to register similarity trademarks to challenge them in games for PR in the future. It will be abusing legal system (IP law) for publicity. Also I think the judges (In Sweden it's The Court of Patent Appeals) won't like it very much.

[olemars]

Usually, judges prefer it if you settle things out of court and don't hassle them with petty squabbles. And settling trademark disputes with silliness isn't unheard of.

[counting]

Not the civil lawsuit judges. The IP court judges. They are trained professionals to deal with the IP administration and dispute. The process of a formal and peaceful solution with this can be settle by them as third neutral professionals. There is no need for this kind of drama unless it's the PR you are after.