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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2011, 02:31:47 pm »

People generally refer the category as IP (Intellectual Property) laws. Generally includes 4 major right :

1. Copyright (mainly about a natural human's creative work, no registration needed)

2. Patent (for the right of inventors' creative work about inventions in industries, need register)

3. Trademark (A logo, sign, mark, for products/services in business. no need to register, but granted in legal system registered trademark has more legal ground)

4. Trade Secret (the process behind products/services, it's kind of compliment to patent, one in secret and last as long as you like, and patent is open and limited.)

And still there are some other minor rights, like the IC designs has separate right. database since non-human involved is protected separately as well, some industrial design can not be patent but falls into copyright is also exception. IP rights are many. Copyright is just one of them. (Probably the most easy one to obtained. like the entire paragraph I am writing right now has it's own copyright, after I finished it.)
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2011, 05:39:01 pm »

Hahaha, really? I'd tip my hat to him if I had one.
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2011, 05:41:50 pm »

Besides that, copy right law [...]

This has nothing to do with copyrights or copyright law. Copyright law is completely irrelevant.

No idea why this still needs to be said.
Oh, wups. Slip of the tongue there (yes I type with my tongue  ::) ) I of course meant to say trademark law. (Although the clause regarding infringement I mentioned applies to copyright as well IIRC)
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2011, 06:32:33 pm »

He's just creating a big media jippo to get publicity and sell his game.
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2011, 08:11:06 pm »

He's just creating a big media jippo to get publicity and sell his game.

I called it a while ago, but people and fans seems to favor Notch and defending Notch big time. What I saw behind the act is that Notch wishes to blow the conflict nature as wild open as possible. Many who didn't know about it, knew about it now. And considering the Skyrim showing off on Quakecon 2011, I think Notch is throwing his big mouth pouch again. Notch is just being so Notch. (Which is quite predictable, and building publicity in Notch style)
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« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2011, 09:03:24 pm »

I am going to state that the VAST majority of all Copyright claims (well cease and decist forms) are NOT done hoping for a court case in any way shape and form.

Most of them are done in an attempt to scare people into stopping what they are doing because people would rather change their activities our of fear, or time, then to actually challenge the fake lawsuit.
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« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2011, 10:05:45 pm »

I am going to state that the VAST majority of all Copyright claims (well cease and decist forms) are NOT done hoping for a court case in any way shape and form.

Most of them are done in an attempt to scare people into stopping what they are doing because people would rather change their activities our of fear, or time, then to actually challenge the fake lawsuit.

This has nothing to do with copyrights or copyright law. Copyright law is completely irrelevant.

No idea why this still needs to be said.
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #83 on: August 17, 2011, 10:13:15 pm »

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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2011, 10:32:16 pm »

I find it either amusing or just plain sad, that this is going on IGN news. Whether you like it or not, most people and almost all the gamers know very little about IP (Intellectual Property this is the right word) laws. And Notch is probably using this to his advantage to sell his image as an oppressed indie developer.

I kinda of terrified about how people generally don't understand how businesses are running in the real world. Although gaming is relaxing, it's no joke. And remember that laws/lawsuits certainly are not jokes. (You can even get sanction by the judge, if you think it's a joke and act like it in court.)
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #85 on: August 17, 2011, 10:36:53 pm »

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remember that laws/lawsuits certainly are not jokes

The sheer number of times people have threatened with lawsuits with no actual intent to follow it up says otherwise.

Or the sheer number of lawsuits done with no intent of winning meant to either waste the accused's time or money... also says something terrible. (and is in fact a common tactic)
-I did hear that there are laws in place to prevent this, to some extent, in the USA... It can REALLY backfire on you to give people superfluous lawsuits.

So... yeah Lawsuits are kinda of a joke given that they are flaunted without respect.
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #86 on: August 17, 2011, 10:40:04 pm »

He's just creating a big media jippo to get publicity and sell his game.

I called it a while ago, but people and fans seems to favor Notch and defending Notch big time. What I saw behind the act is that Notch wishes to blow the conflict nature as wild open as possible. Many who didn't know about it, knew about it now. And considering the Skyrim showing off on Quakecon 2011, I think Notch is throwing his big mouth pouch again. Notch is just being so Notch. (Which is quite predictable, and building publicity in Notch style)
You give him a lot of credit for a guy who does not post that much on the subject.
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #87 on: August 17, 2011, 10:57:19 pm »

He's just creating a big media jippo to get publicity and sell his game.

I called it a while ago, but people and fans seems to favor Notch and defending Notch big time. What I saw behind the act is that Notch wishes to blow the conflict nature as wild open as possible. Many who didn't know about it, knew about it now. And considering the Skyrim showing off on Quakecon 2011, I think Notch is throwing his big mouth pouch again. Notch is just being so Notch. (Which is quite predictable, and building publicity in Notch style)
You give him a lot of credit for a guy who does not post that much on the subject.

People have noted that it feels odd that the same people who criticised Notch for not working on Minecraft enough are the same people who are suddenly inlove with him for fighting off the EVIL Bethesda.

Which come to think of it...

Is there anything that stops Notch from working with Bethesda and them issueing that paper? because that certainly increased his own popularity quite a bit.
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #88 on: August 17, 2011, 11:14:08 pm »

Besides, he could've seen the trouble coming miles before he registered it. The Elder Scrolls are pretty well-known and naming a game "Scrolls" is on the same level as starting a software company called Millisoft. Even if you're ultimately allowed to do it, you can bet your pancreas that there's someone that's not going to take kind of you doing it.

So...  who here thinks of Arena/Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim as 'Bethesda Games' and not 'The Elder Scrolls' ... other then me?
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Re: Controversial copyright and trademark discussion
« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2011, 11:26:35 pm »

Yeah, it's similar to how I think of it as a "McDonald's Hamburger" and not a "Big Mac".
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