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Re: A Hypothetical...
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2011, 10:02:29 pm »

Actually the biggest assumption he's making is that anyone would back him up. Or that his behavior wouldn't just get him shipped back to earth. Both are much bigger showstoppers considering the likely amount of security that will be going with the volunteers. (Making the assumption that actual trained staff will be going in addition, otherwise this project wont be going anywhere. You can't make some of the required jobs needed for something like this viable in a matter of months with a crash course.)
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« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2011, 10:09:59 pm »

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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2011, 10:15:38 pm »

Actually the biggest assumption he's making is that anyone would back him up. Or that his behavior wouldn't just get him shipped back to earth. Both are much bigger showstoppers considering the likely amount of security that will be going with the volunteers. (Making the assumption that actual trained staff will be going in addition, otherwise this project wont be going anywhere. You can't make some of the required jobs needed for something like this viable in a matter of months with a crash course.)
Like I said, the biggest part of this is slowly expanding my base of loyal supporters to a majority of the colony. I can't imagine they would send a lot of security, every single person will cost them millions to transport.
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« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2011, 10:16:20 pm »

I think space travel is the most important endeavor of our time, and I would be willing to risk my life to progress it, but considering the fact I am the kind of person who needs spellcheck to spell "impotent" and "endeavor", I am not exactly the best and the brightest that space travel needs right now.
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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2011, 10:21:23 pm »

My excuses for the plausibility of having most of your astronauts be crash-coursed volunteers is that 1: You don't need to have Buzz Aldrin to pour space concrete, and 2: Unlike a robot, a human won't wait for 45 minutes at a time every time it finds a rock and needs to call home.
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« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2011, 10:23:44 pm »

Unfortunately, it looks like you only have two people here able and willing to throw away their lives to be a lowly grunt in such a project, and one is planning a takeover.

I'm still in the "I'd jump at this" camp, probably because it's the only chance I'd ever have at something like this. There's certainly no way in hell I'd ever end up as one of the professionals.
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« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2011, 10:24:32 pm »

If I had the money and nothing better to do with my life, sure.
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« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2011, 10:33:58 pm »

Well, if it is just being Space grunt, then sure, I would pony up and do my part. As long as I am not expected to fix the ship's flight vector with a slide ruler, and who knows, I have had friends who where never particularly skilled at mathematics learn in the navy. I would give it a shot.
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« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2011, 10:37:11 pm »

Unfortunately, it looks like you only have two people here able and willing to throw away their lives to be a lowly grunt in such a project, and one is planning a takeover.

I'm still in the "I'd jump at this" camp, probably because it's the only chance I'd ever have at something like this. There's certainly no way in hell I'd ever end up as one of the professionals.

Really should send ninjas along the crews. They are loyal, they don't complain, they can do anything, and they will eliminate anyone who is not loyal to you. (They even have a girl group ;))

Partially kidding, but think about sending well-trained professional brain-washed solders is probably a better option if there are just very limited personals can go in a very long and isolated trip. Astronauts and submarine crews are mostly military personals instead of civilians. (It should recruit from the ex-military first, reduce training significantly) 
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« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2011, 10:47:19 pm »

President of mars? The original post sets this up as a business venture of sorts. No one is going to be president since mars wont be a state or country, it's likely to be sectioned off for mining and other such things.

Assuming the idea is plausible and pans out, somebody would claim sovereignty over Mars as long as it had mineral resources that could be sold for economic gain. It's not like Antarctica where the only value appears to be scientific so nobody cares if everybody gets to share. It's like the Arctic where we bicker with eachother because it is full of oil.
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« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2011, 10:54:57 pm »

Unfortunately, it looks like you only have two people here able and willing to throw away their lives to be a lowly grunt in such a project, and one is planning a takeover.
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« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2011, 10:55:30 pm »

I think people already thought about that and selling properties on Mars.
https://www.buymars.com/
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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2011, 11:31:08 pm »

President of mars? The original post sets this up as a business venture of sorts. No one is going to be president since mars wont be a state or country, it's likely to be sectioned off for mining and other such things.

Assuming the idea is plausible and pans out, somebody would claim sovereignty over Mars as long as it had mineral resources that could be sold for economic gain. It's not like Antarctica where the only value appears to be scientific so nobody cares if everybody gets to share. It's like the Arctic where we bicker with eachother because it is full of oil.

On the contrary, noone has ever, ever mined Antarctic, and the actual mineral content is largely unknown. Coal is known to be widespread, and iron in some places, nobody has looked there. The reason it has been poorly prospected is the same as the reason why it's unlikely to be mined: it's covered in ice. Mars may in fact be easier to reach than most of Antarctica.
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« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2011, 12:29:42 am »

The Arctic Circle and the surrounding area will probably be probed for more materials first before Antarctica. It's accessible by land and closer to current economical centers, besides it's melting right now.
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« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2011, 12:59:29 am »

 Pay up 500 bucks just to make them willing to read your file, and thousands of more in training, in order to make them willing to consider whether to hire you or not? This is crazy. I'd suspect a scam.

Besides, even if they were not charging such crazy ammounts of money, there's no way  I'd go through all that just to be a janitor, much less one at a spacial backwater.
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