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[Niveras]

Just as long as the Devs Think of Everything and you can re-join the effort to save the world at any point... including after the world has (irreparably) gone to hell and the best you can do is kill the big bad who made it that way, to stop things from going worse. Sort of an FF6 model, except you can intervene or not at any so point you choose, up to and including letting the world go to Ruin and your only goal at that point is to kill the guy who made it that way.

[Graknorke]

I want a game similar to Oblivion or Skyrim, where there's an open world with lots of side-quest you can do, but the main quest can still go on without you, so you can watch the world actually go to hell if you don't save it.

For what it's worth, Uplink's story carries on without your intervention. But it's set up so the "good guys" will always win, so as to not fuck the player while they're pissing around hacking banks or whatever.

[hector13]

I want a game similar to Oblivion or Skyrim, where there's an open world with lots of side-quest you can do, but the main quest can still go on without you, so you can watch the world actually go to hell if you don't save it.

For what it's worth, Uplink's story carries on without your intervention. But it's set up so the "good guys" will always win, so as to not fuck the player while they're pissing around hacking banks or whatever.

Well... the game ends if the bad guys win, doesn't it?

[Graknorke]

I want a game similar to Oblivion or Skyrim, where there's an open world with lots of side-quest you can do, but the main quest can still go on without you, so you can watch the world actually go to hell if you don't save it.

For what it's worth, Uplink's story carries on without your intervention. But it's set up so the "good guys" will always win, so as to not fuck the player while they're pissing around hacking banks or whatever.

Well... the game ends if the bad guys win, doesn't it?

Yep. I guess during testing people weren't too pleased when they were doing their own thing and suddenly the game tells them they're fucked and deletes the save.

[hector13]

I want a game similar to Oblivion or Skyrim, where there's an open world with lots of side-quest you can do, but the main quest can still go on without you, so you can watch the world actually go to hell if you don't save it.

For what it's worth, Uplink's story carries on without your intervention. But it's set up so the "good guys" will always win, so as to not fuck the player while they're pissing around hacking banks or whatever.

Well... the game ends if the bad guys win, doesn't it?

Yep. I guess during testing people weren't too pleased when they were doing their own thing and suddenly the game tells them they're fucked and deletes the save.

Probably. Not really the best way to do a good ending versus a bad one, so hopefully the guys over at Introversion learned that lesson.

[Graknorke]

It's not really a bad ending. It's just not very satisfying if you weren't personally involved. I guess the "good guy" ending isn't very interesting to not be involved in either, but at least it doesn't bother you either.

And speaking of Introversion: Subversion.
PA's done. Back to the impossible project!

[puke]

And speaking of Introversion: Subversion.
PA's done. Back to the impossible project!

I wish.  These days, leaving EA does not mean you're done.  It means you think the game is at a point that you can get a sales boost by taking off the EA label, but that you can continue to get good will and further sales as long as you continue to develop it.

Some of the features are still a little half baked, and I think they intend to go on working it as long as sales continue.

But yes, speaking of games I wish existed, Subversion for sure.

[EnigmaticHat]

A competitive stealing game.  You play as two rival thieves guilds in a city inspired by the early Ottoman Empire, with light steampunk/magic elements (just enough to justify whatever game mechanics, because muskets are no fun).  You each have a stronghold that the other team cannot initially enter; in between your strongholds is a network of alleyways, open market areas, and guarded buildings.  The NPC citizens and guards do have an AI that lets them respond to the players, but its highly predictable and transparent; the other team is the main threat.  Your goal is to mug, pickpocket, and heist your way into more funds and then get them back to your stronghold, where half the funds go to you to buy upgrades and half go to the guild.  The teams can steal from each other as well as the NPC citizens; killing a player causes them to drop half their loot, stealing without killing gives all of it.  If you steal from the same shopkeeper or structure three consecutive times without the other team ever doing it you get a "protection" agreement with them, meaning you lose the ability to steal from them and instead get a steady flow of money at no effort, which you only lose if the other team does steal from them.  You can purchase security guards, traps, and the like to prevent this from happening, and also use the same tools to secure your stronghold.  The strongholds are protected by mysterious, shadowy door guards that magically prevent the other team from entering, but can be bribed; better entrances cost more money.  Once inside the enemy stronghold, you can steal their loot, or destroy their property to force them to pay for repairs; you win when the enemy's guild funds are reduced to 0.

Upgrades you can buy would include:
Knives speed up the process of mugging citizens, and can be thrown at enemy players to incapacitate them briefly.  Incapacitated players can be mugged to steal their loot.
Guns, mainly for killing enemy players.  Concealed guns all take multiple hits to kill and have at least a little bullet spread; while larger guns are perfectly accurate and some can score one-shot kills, but will get you attacked by guards very quickly if you leave your stronghold with them. 
Normally players are very obvious to the other team (although not to the NPCs) but they can buy disguises of the various types of citizens; citizen disguises merely hide your from the other team, while guards allow you to carry large weapons openly, and nobles/bankers/scholars/religious figures make it easier to infiltrate specific types of buildings.  In the crowded markets where players are trying to pickpocket everyone, having a disguise might let you pickpocket the other team.
Climbing claws/grappling hooks/various other tools to let you parkour everywhere.

[PTTG??]

I like it. It works well with two players and with twenty.

I recommend combat being deadly but disposing of bodies difficult. You don't kill other PCs because then you have to hide the body before the guards show up.

I like the setting, but it started me thinking that there's actually very few martial arts games out there...

What if we move the setting to a nice Chinese dynasty, have the guilds be noble houses, and give the PCs martial arts abilities? Now the players are navigating a set of potential approaches, all of which demand judicious but not flagrant use of force.

[Bohandas]

Real martial arts, or movie martial-arts with flying around and vsnishing in puffs of smoke and magically paralyzing people (like, in ways totally unrelated to the spinal cord, brain, or tendon injuries that real martial arts might realistifally inflict), and turning into a log and stuff?

[Dunamisdeos]

Real martial arts, or movie martial-arts with flying around and vsnishing in puffs of smoke and magically paralyzing people (like, in ways totally unrelated to the spinal cord, brain, or tendon injuries that real martial arts might realistifally inflict), and turning into a log and stuff?

I got your realism right here, bub.

[Akura]

Real martial arts, or movie martial-arts with flying around and vsnishing in puffs of smoke and magically paralyzing people (like, in ways totally unrelated to the spinal cord, brain, or tendon injuries that real martial arts might realistifally inflict), and turning into a log and stuff?

I got your realism right here, bub.

Definitely needs to be a game starring a hot chick in a Viking chainmail bikini with an Uzi.


Wait, are those spikes on her breasts? Poor bastard who tries to cop a feel.

[RAM]

That is entirely realistic. Anachronistic, and grossly impractical, but easily within physical potential and comfortably explained by social dynamics.
 To convert that image to a martial-arts setting, it would be akin to a martial art based upon the use of hot fish and chips wrapped in paper as a weapon. Such would be vaguely plausible, as one may find themselves walking around with such an armament and it would likely be the most potent, if short-lived, weapon in one's possession at the time, but in practical terms, its availability is extremely arbitrary and there are far more effective options if one has time to prepare.
For the image to match unrealistic martial arts, the lady in question would need to be single-handedly defeating an elite military force, while flying by using grossly-undersized wings, and the band of genuine vikings that she summoned from the past(who, for some reason, would have horns on their helmets, be wearing some sort of loincloths, and likely include many body-builders in their number...) would be busying themselves in the background by using their iron swords to cut holes in modern armoured military vehicles.

[Egan_BW]

Definitely needs to be a game starring a hot chick in a Viking chainmail bikini with an Uzi.


Wait, are those spikes on her breasts? Poor bastard who tries to cop a feel.

Dude that's not an Uzi.

[RAM]

Duh, it is obviously an AK-47!