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[Yolan]

In Factorio you start out working directly with your hands, and then proceed to build technological systems that grant you more and more power.

How about a game where rather than technology it is politics, in the meaner sense of power structures, that is the focus. Feudalism the game or some such. Initially you have to slice off a few peoples heads, and then you are able to get some other people to do that for you. Your orders are not magically transferred from on high to the lowest level. Anything you have not done directly is done via others. Chains of command need to be set up, budgets assigned, conspirators and assassins watched for. How well do you know your own realm? How well can you control it? You might want to wage a war, but that is not simply a matter of money or resources.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

In Factorio you start out working directly with your hands, and then proceed to build technological systems that grant you more and more power.

How about a game where rather than technology it is politics, in the meaner sense of power structures, that is the focus. Feudalism the game or some such. Initially you have to slice off a few peoples heads, and then you are able to get some other people to do that for you. Your orders are not magically transferred from on high to the lowest level. Anything you have not done directly is done via others. Chains of command need to be set up, budgets assigned, conspirators and assassins watched for. How well do you know your own realm? How well can you control it? You might want to wage a war, but that is not simply a matter of money or resources.

That sounds super fun! I'd play that. Combat or is it abstacted?

[BlindKitty]

sort of like these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargame_Construction_Set

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/356/details/The.War.Engine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Command_2:_Blitzkrieg

first two are dedicated construction kits, third one is highly modable.

Yeah, that's pretty much in the vein of what I was thinking. Especially The War Engine looks interesting, but really small scale; the scale of Strategic Command 2 was something more on my mind. I will surely take a look at those, thank you!

[Sergius]

Not sure if I posted this before, I'm starting to believe I post the same ideas every few months, heh.

I'm spoilering it just in case I'm just repeating myself.

To sum up: a MMORPG game where each player gets better options for making new characters by killing or retiring the old ones off.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'd like a MMORPG-like game where each player controls a single "soul" entity, that instead of gaining character experience gains "soul points", which is like a kind of currency.

You spend those soul points in creating characters or avatars. Playing one of those characters let you both raise your "soul level" or unlock unavailable character "techs" which are basically traits or feats or abilities or classes. Kinda like an F2P online store but you don't buy them with money. And you can't put those traits in an existing character.

There is Permadeath. Maybe death is optional? Sometimes, death is desirable. Creating a replacement character is cheap and quick. Maybe you don't get unlocks unless the character that is earning them dies, or something? But also, the longer the character lives, the best your "soul points" increase. Maybe they gain experience conventionally, which gets turned into the soul currency at death. But you only get a percent of the exchange rate from the "gained levels". So, you get all your Original Soul Points back used during creation, and the difference in XP/levels gets converted into more soul points at a loss. Still, it works on some kind of curve so gaining twice the "character points" nets you more than twice the "soul points".

So basically, whenever you are "killed", you are given the choice to retire and cash in. Retiring peacefully could work also but maybe you get different "perks" depending on the kind of retirement. Maybe you get bonuses depending on how epic your retirement/death was.

Maybe a character tops out depending on how many soul points were used. So, if you want to be even better, you have to retire it and make a fresh one.

I would probably make the Account / Player / Soul name visible, to some people, or everyone?

Then there's the thing about having all your characters be like one family or bloodline or whatever. And you can use a portion of your soul points to make like, merchants or crafters and having them out there in the world. Non-death retirement maybe leaves your old character as an NPC wandering around until he dies of old age, still related to your family.

Also characters can age and die. Or age manually. Maybe you get upgrades and tradeoffs from aging from youngling to veteran then to old fart.

[Yolan]

That sounds super fun! I'd play that. Combat or is it abstacted?

Both!

[NullForceOmega]

A free to play, Tron based MMORPG,  the only things you pay for are special skins or on demand re-specs.  Three major roles: security program (red lights by default, combat type) messenger program (white lights by default, stealth type) game program (blue lights by default, multi-purpose dynamo with bonuses on the game grid).  Instead of standard exp. you acquire data that can be used to purchase mods and upgrades as well as skills.  Titanic skill web with the possibility for any class to eventually learn anything (Path of Exile like, but with slightly more structure).  Disney could earn idiotic amounts of money with themed skins and accessories.

[flabort]

My brother came up with an idea for a minecraft mod, which I wrote the details of in a text document. I'll post those later, but I can't actually code it.

The gist of it: You are one of a huge number of hobos (players and mobs can both be hobos) in a world-spanning metropolis. You need to survive the hobo gangs, angry citizens, urchins, and police, whilst trying to fend off hunger and build yourself a home and your own hobo army. Not to mention the zombies...

[PTTG??]

Not sure if I posted this before, I'm starting to believe I post the same ideas every few months, heh.

I'm spoilering it just in case I'm just repeating myself.

To sum up: a MMORPG game where each player gets better options for making new characters by killing or retiring the old ones off.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'd like a MMORPG-like game where each player controls a single "soul" entity, that instead of gaining character experience gains "soul points", which is like a kind of currency.

You spend those soul points in creating characters or avatars. Playing one of those characters let you both raise your "soul level" or unlock unavailable character "techs" which are basically traits or feats or abilities or classes. Kinda like an F2P online store but you don't buy them with money. And you can't put those traits in an existing character.

There is Permadeath. Maybe death is optional? Sometimes, death is desirable. Creating a replacement character is cheap and quick. Maybe you don't get unlocks unless the character that is earning them dies, or something? But also, the longer the character lives, the best your "soul points" increase. Maybe they gain experience conventionally, which gets turned into the soul currency at death. But you only get a percent of the exchange rate from the "gained levels". So, you get all your Original Soul Points back used during creation, and the difference in XP/levels gets converted into more soul points at a loss. Still, it works on some kind of curve so gaining twice the "character points" nets you more than twice the "soul points".

So basically, whenever you are "killed", you are given the choice to retire and cash in. Retiring peacefully could work also but maybe you get different "perks" depending on the kind of retirement. Maybe you get bonuses depending on how epic your retirement/death was.

Maybe a character tops out depending on how many soul points were used. So, if you want to be even better, you have to retire it and make a fresh one.

I would probably make the Account / Player / Soul name visible, to some people, or everyone?

Then there's the thing about having all your characters be like one family or bloodline or whatever. And you can use a portion of your soul points to make like, merchants or crafters and having them out there in the world. Non-death retirement maybe leaves your old character as an NPC wandering around until he dies of old age, still related to your family.

Also characters can age and die. Or age manually. Maybe you get upgrades and tradeoffs from aging from youngling to veteran then to old fart.

I had a similar idea, except that instead of a "soul," the PC is basically a family line. You can play as anyone of that family. Noble titles and estates move down the line, heirloom swords and such, and trades are usually passed on as well. PC families can "trade" members in political marriages, and doing so has consequences in the way that titles are inherited. Individual family members may have personal advantages and disadvantages; for instance, if the current heir apparent is willfull, he/she might ignore commands given by the player (representing the family gestalt) and instead marry a peasant or learn to paint, in turn ruining decades or even centuries of planning.

[Bohandas]

It's not an rpg, but I think you play as a family line in Tropico 5

[Sergius]

Yeah, I don't mean that a soul has to literally be a soul. It's more like the soul is the player (as, the entity that is behind the keyboard).

And just a way to have people dying all over without the player score actually going down or having to start over. But still reward survival / success in a tangible way. In fact, players actually wanting to "roleplay" permadeath.

So... reward survival for as long as possible but only AFTER death

[Blade312]

A more complex Toribash where the players have muscles, bone, fat, and skin and react to pain.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

A more complex Toribash where the players have muscles, bone, fat, and skin and react to pain.

how would you control the muscles? It'd be a pain to have to manually adjust each muscle group.

[scrdest]

A more complex Toribash where the players have muscles, bone, fat, and skin and react to pain.

how would you control the muscles? It'd be a pain to have to manually adjust each muscle group.

Have you ever played Toribash?

[Graknorke]

A more complex Toribash where the players have muscles, bone, fat, and skin and react to pain.

But most of the fun is in being able to do far too many flips , more than a human being could realistically achieve in one jump, and then do some stupid trick that involves tearing off your arm.

[flabort]

My brother came up with an idea for a minecraft mod, which I wrote the details of in a text document. I'll post those later, but I can't actually code it.

So are there any coders willing to help us with this? Especially any familiar with the Technic Launcher?

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Try and:
Make each biome a 60% chance of being "city" and 40% of being "Park"; Park is a normal biome, city is a villiage on top of the regular biome.
Villages have had all their buildings replaced with large multistory buildings with lots and lots of windows, probably multiple doors.
Spaces between buildings in villages have pavement or slabs (roads or sidewalks).
The things villagers will trade for are widely more varried, but they're more stingy (requiring more trade goods to give an emerald and giving less for and emerald)
As well as regular villagers, there will be a second variety of villager mob called an Anti-Hobo Villager, which is technically a Hostile mob; passive and behaves like a villager, until you right click them to try to trade, but then they attack you when you do. Because they don't tollerate begging. Anyways, it means tradable villagers will be few and far between, because they count as villagers and there are more of them.
There are some "hobo" monsters that resemble players, but instead of noses like villagers they have fuzzy coat trims, which are always hostile. There are "Urchins" which are even smaller but have the same size head (A hobo has a 15% chance of spawning as an Urchin). Urchins will grow into hobos if they don't despawn in 3 day/night cycles.
Feeding rotten meat or other foods to hobos or urchins might tame them, with a 4% chance. Tamed hobos and urchins will follow you and attack other non-passive mobs, pick up items, and you can right click them to access their 8 block inventory. Untamed hobos will attack other hobos or villagers, as well as other mobs.
Some hobos will be "Elite" and cannot be tamed. Elite hobos will tame other hobos; hobos will remember who tamed them and remain hostile to others (such as you). Urchins can be Elite too. This can result in all out wars between hobos when two elite hobos with hobo armies meet.
Tamed Hobos also have a hunger stat, which will slowly degrade, and they can consume food from their inventory (even rotting meat). When they run out of hunger they'll turn back to untamed.
Iron Golems still exist, but are not spawned by villages (which there will be 1 world spanning village (due to overlap) or up to 6 slightly smaller ones); while Iron Golems can be produced by other means, villages spawn "Fuzz" now, which are mobs that resemble villagers with blue uniforms, fancy hats, and swords. Fuzz will attack hobos, urchins, zombies, or anyone/anything who attacks a Fuzz, Villager, or Anti-Hobo Villager.
It can interface with the most popular Mob Damage Indicator mod's APIs to display the health AND hunger of Hobo and Urchin mobs.
Just like with their Villager version, there can be a Hobo version for a zombie (Zombie with a ragged coat trim). And because there are miniature Hobos (Urchins), then there are miniature hobo zombies.
Hobos (And Urchins, and the tamed versions) when killed have a 10% chance of dropping rotten meat, 2 5% chances of dropping an apple (0.25% of two apples), a 1% chance each of dropping raw mutton, raw pork, raw beef, or raw chicken, a 20% chance of dropping a loaf of bread, a 5% chance of dropping a wooden sword, a 10% chance of dropping a wooden axe, and a 0.5% chance of dropping an emerald.
Fuzz when killed have a 40% chance of dropping a damaged iron tool (sword, axe, pickaxe, or shovel) with 10-50% durability, have 4 10% chances of dropping iron ingots, 3 5% chances of dropping stacks of 2 sticks, and 2 1% chances of dropping an emerald.
Anti-Hobo Villagers when killed have the same drops as villagers.
Zombie Hobos (And urchins) have the same drops as zombies.

Buildings in the mod will have glass blocks between the buildings (with a algorithm to connect them in a logical manner) with redstone dust on them, and redstone repeaters in the buildings; the purpose of these paths is to create a network of energy that lights up the glowstone lanterns in the buildings. Some buildings have sources for the redstone signals.
There are special carpets (non-craftable) inside all the buildings; when you stand on them, then any Anti-Hobo villagers will attack without being right clicked, as will nearby Fuzz.
Villagers have had their combat skills buffed to fend off zombies a little better; they can still be converted easily, though, so if a zombie outbreak begins it will be very difficult to stop.