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[Teneb]

I wish for an RPG based entirely on music. The combat would be primarily based on the party fighting with the power of music, and the battle music would change depending on what instruments everyone was wielding.

This needs to be a thing.

[Parsely]

I wish for an RPG based entirely on music. The combat would be primarily based on the party fighting with the power of music, and the battle music would change depending on what instruments everyone was wielding.

RPG Rhythm Game. These are a thing, I've seen more than just this one around before.

[WillowLuman]

I'd prefer a less "DDR" based interface. More traditional RPG combat, but with a procedural music system so many battles would sound like some kind of "Battle of bands." Also, a very grungy protagonist.

[Parsely]

Brutal Legend?

[WillowLuman]

That's more RTS, though, and the music is from a set soundtrack.

[Retropunch]

Okay, here's a thought:

In many RPGs the cleric or healer class is restricted to blunt weapons. Some say this is because of an oath to do no harm, or even the Hypocrates oath. But blunt weapons can still cause significant injury.
And so I thought: Then why let them have weapons at all?
So I had an idea: a roguelike where you play a healer, but you can't attack or cause direct or indirect harm to others. Higher difficulty levels would require you to heal any injured monster you come across, or even to ensure that as few creatures die as possible.

...Then again, it could also be a self-imposed challenge for nethack or something. XD

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup has that if you worship Evylion (I think earlier versions you could start as a healer (or maybe you still can?)). You can pacify monsters by healing them which turns them neutral and gives you some XP, as well as being able to heal yourself. I've seen a run where someone got through the entire game without directly killing anything themselves (with liberal use of objects, stealth and healing).

Still, only fun for a run through, I can't imagine it being fun as an entire game.

[EnigmaticHat]

DE:HR could support non-violence runs.  There was always the exception of, well, the game mechanic everyone hated.  And playing that way would be very memory based.  But otherwise it could be fun.

I think a game designed around it might work.  I know I played Monaco non-violently until the levels got really hard.

[Graknorke]

DE:HR could support non-violence runs.  There was always the exception of, well, the game mechanic everyone hated.  And playing that way would be very memory based.  But otherwise it could be fun.

I think a game designed around it might work.  I know I played Monaco non-violently until the levels got really hard.

Deus Ex can be done without killing or attacking anyone or thing, and HR boss fights can probably be glitched through but if not then you have to fight those and those only. If you'd like a challenge you could do the bosses without using any inventory items or augmentations.

[EnigmaticHat]

DE:HR could support non-violence runs.  There was always the exception of, well, the game mechanic everyone hated.  And playing that way would be very memory based.  But otherwise it could be fun.

I think a game designed around it might work.  I know I played Monaco non-violently until the levels got really hard.

Deus Ex can be done without killing or attacking anyone or thing, and HR boss fights can probably be glitched through but if not then you have to fight those and those only. If you'd like a challenge you could do the bosses without using any inventory items or augmentations.

I don't think you can do the last two without augmentations or weapons.  You

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need to use instant takedown (an augment) or guns to beat the third, and to beat the final boss you need a source of damage and I don't think there are any physics objects around.

[Parsely]

I'm on the final boss in DR:HR, a perfect pacifist run with no alerts. And I can't beat it because I have no combat augments and all my stealth and hacking upgrades don't do crap.

It's been sitting that way for more than half a year now, waiting to be completed.. T.T

[EnigmaticHat]

I'm on the final boss in DR:HR, a perfect pacifist run with no alerts. And I can't beat it because I have no combat augments and all my stealth and hacking upgrades don't do crap.

It's been sitting that way for more than half a year now, waiting to be completed.. T.T

If you have maxed out hacking you can skip a good section of the boss.  Also all bosses can TECHNICALLY be beat using only gear in or immediately before the boss room.  So there should be some specialized grenades or something lying around.  (not arguing in favor of the boss battles, I hate them as much as the next guy)

[Parsely]

Is the lady boss who has a submachine gun and keeps running around the final boss? That's who I remember being stuck on.

[EnigmaticHat]

Oh... no, that's the second boss.

She's a pain unless you have one of two augments you would have no reason to have.

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Any level of typhoon lets you exploit the invincibility of the animation and the stunning to cancel out her attacks with your own.

The generators with pools of liquid under them can be attacked (or you can lure her into hitting them with her own typhoon-esque augment IRRC) to electrocute her.  Unless you're lucky and practiced though you'll probably electrocute yourself, but there's an augment that cancels that out.

Since you don't have either of those things you need to find the machine gun right before that room.  Its awkward, but it has enough ammo to kill her.  There's more ammo inside, as well as I believe some grenades.  They'll be located in shelves around the edges of the room.  She should come out of cloak, attack, and then retreat.    What you'll need to do is learn her attack animation, learn to dodge it, and use the machine gun and if possible the electrocution to damage her.  Your cloak (you have one I hope), and any healing/energy items you have will hopefully keep you alive long enough to regenerate between attacks.  Don't be afraid to sprint around like a madman if you need more time.  It'll be frustrating but you can do it.

Why exactly the thin layer of metal under her skin lets her take over a hundred machine gun bullets at close range when she isn't wearing a helmet, I have no idea.  You can get that augment and it certainly doesn't do that for you :/

[Graknorke]

DE:HR could support non-violence runs.  There was always the exception of, well, the game mechanic everyone hated.  And playing that way would be very memory based.  But otherwise it could be fun.

I think a game designed around it might work.  I know I played Monaco non-violently until the levels got really hard.

Deus Ex can be done without killing or attacking anyone or thing, and HR boss fights can probably be glitched through but if not then you have to fight those and those only. If you'd like a challenge you could do the bosses without using any inventory items or augmentations.

I don't think you can do the last two without augmentations or weapons.  You

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

need to use instant takedown (an augment) or guns to beat the third, and to beat the final boss you need a source of damage and I don't think there are any physics objects around.

Thrown crates cause damage. It is possible to bring crates into every boss, though for some you have to glitch them through the door.
Someone did an entire playthrough without using items, takedowns, or augments. It's really more of a showcase of glitches, and it's definitely impressively ingenious.

[NobodyPro]

Thrown crates cause damage. It is possible to bring crates into every boss, though for some you have to glitch them through the door.
Someone did an entire playthrough without using items, takedowns, or augments. It's really more of a showcase of glitches, and it's definitely impressively ingenious.

Here's a link. I love things like this.