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WillowLuman

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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #1845 on: February 18, 2013, 04:19:30 pm »

A fallout-style RPG set on a depopulated asteroid colony where you can be human, cyborg, or android, and it has a decompression mechanic for indoor areas if something punches a hole.

With or without Dwarf Fortress levels of contact area?

The pin has punctured Space Station 22's hull!
Everything in the room is ground into meat paste!

Decompression, even in space, is rarely that exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yG2h1aDB6k (Mythbusters, using an airplane)

I was thinking more like you blow out a window with a grenade, all the humans/cyborgs not wearing the right gear start asphyxiating, small objects get sucked outside, flamethrowers stop working, etc.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #1846 on: February 18, 2013, 04:30:31 pm »

A flamethrower made for use in space would include it's own oxygen, windows should be stronger, and androids need to breath to(Processor cooling is important*).

*Liquid cooling doesn't help, as they still need to dump the heat someway, and vacuum makes a pretty good isolator.
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« Reply #1847 on: February 18, 2013, 04:32:14 pm »

A flamethrower made for use in space would include it's own oxygen, windows should be stronger, and androids need to breath to(Processor cooling is important*).

*Liquid cooling doesn't help, as they still need to dump the heat someway, and vacuum makes a pretty good isolator.
Couldn't an emergency system using the cold of space to dump heat work?

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« Reply #1848 on: February 18, 2013, 04:36:32 pm »

Liquid cooling can still work, they'd just need high surface area radiators so they could use radiant heat in vacuum conditions.

Couldn't an emergency system using the cold of space to dump heat work?

Space is not cold. Space is empty, but the handful of particles that do roam it are extremely hot compared to what we'd ever be used to on Earth. They're just way too small to transfer much heat.
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« Reply #1849 on: February 18, 2013, 04:40:46 pm »

They only working cooling is radiation (Ie, giant radiators*) or evaporation(dumping liquids that then evaporate cooling the droid).

Oh, and actually space particles are generally very cold. Like 4 degrees Kelvin. Problem is there aren't any around.

*Ie, Wings in space
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« Reply #1850 on: February 18, 2013, 04:43:37 pm »

Oh, yeah, they're fast, not hot.

Even so, for heating or cooling they're practically useless. Which is why you use high surface area, so there's plenty of area for radiant heat to radiate with radiation.
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« Reply #1851 on: February 18, 2013, 04:45:40 pm »

If someone makes a Warhammer 40K themed Planetside 2, along with the business model and everything, I don't think I'd play anything else for... well, for quite a long time.

Makes me kinda sad Games' Workshop is actively opposed to making money out of their IP.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #1852 on: February 18, 2013, 04:47:30 pm »

What if the ship itself had a radiation based cooling system that could be used to dump heat into.

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« Reply #1853 on: February 18, 2013, 05:27:16 pm »

A flamethrower made for use in space would include it's own oxygen, windows should be stronger, and androids need to breath to(Processor cooling is important*).

*Liquid cooling doesn't help, as they still need to dump the heat someway, and vacuum makes a pretty good isolator.

It's a depopulated astroid/lunar colony, the only people/droids would be scavengers/fugitives, so they'd be the ones making ad-hoc flamethrowers. Flamethrowers wouldn't be designed to work in space anyway, since some more advanced energy weapon would be better. It's a freaking grenade, not being able to withstand a grenade (designed to blow things to dust) does not a poorly designed pane of glass make, even if it's a foot thick to protect from micrometeorites. We have space robots and computers in real life already, don't need a constant air cooling supply. They just radiate thermal energy into space.

Even if the androids just overheat without air coolant, they still would last for far longer than a human when the air gets sucked out. Humans get maybe 40 seconds in near-vaccum before they're incapacitated/dead from embolism, robot has to process for a while before the overheating becomes crippling (and not taking into account the obvious future setting, with more energy efficient computers. Or, hell, androids in the first place.)



I'm thinking how cool a survival RPG would be here, though, having to look out for places to replenish/purify your air supply, as well as recharging your gadgets, refueling whatever uses combustibles, getting food and water, and finding a safe place to sleep. And you'd have to think strategically about using explosives and whether or not to rush into a firefight, since you've got to be careful about the integrity of your space suit or whatever building you're in. Robots might not have to worry as much about about air and food, but they'd still have to find energy to power themselves and would still have to shelter from cosmic radiation.
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« Reply #1854 on: February 18, 2013, 06:33:55 pm »

If someone makes a Warhammer 40K themed Planetside 2, along with the business model and everything, I don't think I'd play anything else for... well, for quite a long time.

Makes me kinda sad Games' Workshop is actively opposed to making money out of their IP.
I've thought this more than once.  Although I do wonder if such a game might have issues when it comes to factions - maybe too many of them to ensure an even spread of population (and the inevitable dismay if they limit it and don't include your favourite(s)).
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« Reply #1855 on: February 18, 2013, 08:10:39 pm »

An FTL-like with expanded objectives: a world map, expanded systems such as cargo bays and free-world roaming. You could play as a cargo hauler, selling wares from star to star, fighting off pirates and making money, as a pirate, attacking commercial ships and living off of others, or even a mercenary.


Cargo bays to carry supplies, giant prototype weapons, even mecha combat- yes, you can have space mecha battles if you have the bay for it- all rendered with pixels! So that anyone with a processor can play it.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #1856 on: February 18, 2013, 10:21:16 pm »

And you'd have to think strategically about using explosives and whether or not to rush into a firefight, since you've got to be careful about the integrity of your space suit or whatever building you're in.
Yeah. I can imagine sweating pretty hard in a standoff wherein you and your opponent are both well-armed, but neither one of you wishes to damage the shelter you're disagreeing over. Whoever walks away is going to die, but if one of you shoots and misses, then its game over for all involved.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #1857 on: February 18, 2013, 10:37:57 pm »

all rendered with pixels!

But I want a game compatible with my new holographic projector  :(
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #1858 on: February 18, 2013, 11:02:52 pm »

And you'd have to think strategically about using explosives and whether or not to rush into a firefight, since you've got to be careful about the integrity of your space suit or whatever building you're in.
Yeah. I can imagine sweating pretty hard in a standoff wherein you and your opponent are both well-armed, but neither one of you wishes to damage the shelter you're disagreeing over. Whoever walks away is going to die, but if one of you shoots and misses, then its game over for all involved.

Well, that's where small arms as opposed to explosives would come in. Or stealth, melee fighting, etc. But if someone has a high-powered rifle or a grenade, environmental destruction time XD
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« Reply #1859 on: February 18, 2013, 11:51:45 pm »

Liquid cooling can still work, they'd just need high surface area radiators so they could use radiant heat in vacuum conditions.

Couldn't an emergency system using the cold of space to dump heat work?

Space is not cold. Space is empty, but the handful of particles that do roam it are extremely hot compared to what we'd ever be used to on Earth. They're just way too small to transfer much heat.

The only heat you'd be venting into space is black-body radiation.  If the rate of radiated heat in the form of light (albeit at very low wavelengths) exceeds the rate at which the android is creating it (this will likely vary based on temperature as well: hotter the outer skin, the faster the heat will bleed off as light) and the point at which this occurs is colder than the critical heat level of the android's components, then it would function "just fine" in a vacuum.
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