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[Fniff]

I did say I didn't mind whether it was ASCII or not. If it wastes more space, it could be good to be more economic.

Randomized factions would be great. Here is a good structure.

Name: For werewolves, it should usually involve tribes, lunar terms or clans (One example would be The Moon of the City, or the Ninth Tribe) unless they are radical. For vampires, it should involve nobility, fancy terms for blood or fancy terms in general (Example: The Sanguine Castle) unless they are radical.
Radical: Do they want to split apart from the usual stereotypes? These would be at least far away from what you would expect from a normal clan of werewolves or vampires. (Vampire radical group: Blood Sun. Believes in saving every human and sacrificing themselves for the greater good. Werewolf radical group: Unit 7-B9. Believes that their supernatural side is merely just a tool to help them get what they want)
Strength: At it's weakest, factions have lead pipes and improvised muskets. At it's strongest, they have the police, the government and the most of the international community at their back, and their troopers are usually military supernaturals in riot armor with the best weapons. Thankfully, your city is the hometown of their faction, so if you kill the leader, the mooks usually go AWOL.
Social Standing: How the faction measures up with the others in general. Are they surrounded by enemies, or are they puppeteers of the entire supernatural community?
Humans: Do they incorporate human soldiers as easy disposable soldiers? Do they wish to see humans wiped off the Earth? Do they want to be human again?
Science: How much do they know about things? Is the only thing they know is that vampires don't like garlic and werewolves don't hang about silver, or do they know the origin, biology and weaknesses you don't even know about?
Hunters: Are they actively presued by hunters, or are they untouchable by them? Usually depends on the strength stat, but you can end up with a supernatural organization that is being targeted by an equally powerful hunter organization. Then you probably end up with a war that will shake up the entire foundations of the city.

Of course, the structure would be different for hunters.

[NRDL]

HUNTER DETAILS NAO!!!

[Starver]

It could be that we all like DF, and DF is made of ASCII graphics (Or ANSI, or some wizardry) so we associate that with DF, which is quality.

From the description, I was thinking of it being the ASCII game as in LCS.  Not that I couldn't see it being a roguelike mapped ASCII (or, indeed, my "ANSI-like" preferred description) like DF.

I could also see it being a text-input game, MUD-like (in fact, a MUD platform could work quite well for the concept... if there isn't already a MUD with similar qualities I'd be surprised).  And of course your 'classic' FPS, with GTA-like cities.

[Kay12]

I did say I didn't mind whether it was ASCII or not. If it wastes more space, it could be good to be more economic.

Yeap, I was just pointing out that ASCII interface design is fairly hard...

[Fniff]

Actually, I just came up with a great stat for the organization.

Age: Has this organization existed since the dawn of man, or was it only formed a few weeks ago?

Okay, hunter details.

Name: Blah
Strength: Blah
Traitor: Do they secretly pretend to be a hunter organization when they actually help supernatural creatures? Do they also do a bit of hitman jobs on other hunters for supernatural creatures?
Size: Is there only about five people in the entire organization, or is there thousands among the city?
He who fights monsters: Does this group exploit supernaturals in experiments that would make Mengele cringe? Do they harvest the blood and organs of these supernatural monsters and put them into their soldiers? Do they think that it's worth it or is the suicide rate in the science department insanely high?
Kidnapping: Do they kidnap supernaturals and force them to work for them? Do they put retainers on vampires and tell them to hunt down some of their brothers? Do they take werewolves and use them as shock troopers?
Conscripts: Do they take humans who know pretty much nothing about the monsters that lurk behind the veil and give them minimal weaponry and point towards the demons?
Morality: Are they actively evil, or the only sane light in a world that is gone completely to hell? Are they Templars who are doing the right thing but in the wrong way, or demons who help people with ways that make the world better but leave piles of corpses in their wake?

Here is an interesting event that could happen. The secret is exposed to the world, and the city falls into anarchy. Hunters fight with monsters in the street and the entire city is burning. This could happen if you mess up a feeding or go into werewolf mode in a casino.

[Draco18s]

Well, that might explain it... I personally dislike stuff being "promoted" just to get neat numbers though, but that's Toady's choice.

Oh no.  All the CORE items are new.  I don't think any REQs got promoted (or if they did, it was very very few).

I'm not sure if making up completely new goals just to get neat numbers is any better, but again, case-by-case basis and Toady's choice...

Accidentally replaced my post.

Power Goals are another category entirely (and there's over 100 of them!).  The Core items are things that are considered to be essential to be completed before the game is considered "Version 1" and out of alpha/beta status.  Req and Bloat items are the bells and whistles, with Power Goals defining the direction: things that could happen and should be possible (giant books, being denied entry, cow rustling, having your followers desert you, etc.).

[Kay12]

Well, that might explain it... I personally dislike stuff being "promoted" just to get neat numbers though, but that's Toady's choice.

Oh no.  All the CORE items are new.  I don't think any REQs got promoted (or if they did, it was very very few).

I'm not sure if making up completely new goals just to get neat numbers is any better, but again, case-by-case basis and Toady's choice...

Accidentally replaced my post.

Power Goals are another category entirely (and there's over 100 of them!).  The Core items are things that are considered to be essential to be completed before the game is considered "Version 1" and out of alpha/beta status.  Req and Bloat items are the bells and whistles, with Power Goals defining the direction: things that could happen and should be possible (giant books, being denied entry, cow rustling, having your followers desert you, etc.).

Doesn't really address my point in any way...

[Draco18s]

Doesn't really address my point in any way...

It's not like he made stuff up just to have 100 items.  It was that he finally got down to writing them down and organizing them into 100 neat chunks.

[squeakyReaper]

It could be that we all like DF, and DF is made of ASCII graphics (Or ANSI, or some wizardry) so we associate that with DF, which is quality.

Beyond quality.

[Kaleb702 Games]

http://forums.yoyogames.com/forums/3/topics/66449
What I said there.

[lordcooper]

I want a game based around the Inquisition.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

Nobody expects a game based around the Inquisition!

[Roboboy33]

Can we end the nerd rant? Dwarfy Please with magma on top?

[Sirus]

Can we end the nerd rant? Dwarfy Please with magma on top?

Agreed. This thread is as derailed as the train in Inception (you know the one I'm talking about).

[Kay12]

Doesn't really address my point in any way...

It's not like he made stuff up just to have 100 items.  It was that he finally got down to writing them down and organizing them into 100 neat chunks.

But is 100 really such a...

Can we end the nerd rant? Dwarfy Please with magma on top?

...fine.