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Starver

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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #255 on: August 22, 2011, 02:25:08 pm »

thus why I specified "a copy of a random file". It's nice to have a trophy from each conquest. I also thought that after accepting each match and while it is loading, there would be a screen that shows the name of the file each person is wagering. I imagine there are some files that people might be more desperate to keep private and therefore will play harder that round.
I'd imagine there'd even be some filenames that someone wouldn't want to be conveyed.  So maybe the game should allow a variant of "blind bidding".  Or the owner, on being shown the filename that will be disclosed (and which is already in escrow so that it is even if he pulls the power out immediately), gets the chance of a second randomly-chosen file (this time remaining unknown, for that little extra zest!) being presented in the contest on top-of the only-known-to-owner one.  In the event of a draw (or very minor win by the opponent, if a draw isn't possible), only the mystery second file is "won" by the other party, but both files go under normal conditions.

I've got some ideas about how to deal with "clean" installs (default system files are exempt, there must be a certain number/size of viable files on the system, and there are ways to deal with "padding" a clean system with equally clean qualifier-fodder) but there are always possible countermeasures, counter-countermeasures, etc...

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« Reply #256 on: August 22, 2011, 02:42:57 pm »

Another nice idea... a heuristic that approximates the "shame value" of files. This heuristic is then used to bias the random selection of files. Before each round, the player can either accept the file offered - or in the event the file is among the worst imaginable, he can choose a "?" option that is guaranteed to be a different file... chosen with even heavier heuristic bias. :P

There's no way to calculate the "shame value" of a random file.

Not calculate. Estimate. It doesn't need to be a perfect heuristic, especially if we assume the player doesn't know about it.

For example, text files may be scanned for offensive language. Picture and video filenames might provide a clue, as could folder names ("fap", "porn", "herm" etc, especially if combined with the 4chan filename format). In reverse, too - assuming a standard computer user, a .dll or anything in WINDOWS folder is unlikely to be "shameful" in any way.

Yes, it'll miss some really shameful files, and yes, there may be false positives, especially if the algorithm is deliberately mislead. But some sort of heuristic would be possible.
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« Reply #257 on: August 22, 2011, 02:51:34 pm »

For example, text files may be scanned for offensive language. Picture and video filenames might provide a clue, as could folder names ("fap", "porn", "herm" etc, especially if combined with the 4chan filename format). In reverse, too - assuming a standard computer user, a .dll or anything in WINDOWS folder is unlikely to be "shameful" in any way.

Lets see...

My folder is named "DY" (exercise to the reader to discern that meaning).
Example file name: 1313825207.syrinoth_web_clr_areoch_03.jpg
Same file, but cleaned of the extraneous number I tend to strip: syrinoth_web_clr_areoch_03.jpg
Here's another: 1313723562.paxilon_malashar_copy.png (or paxilon_malashar_copy.png)

I don't use subfolters, tags, or descriptive file names (beyond what the artist called their file, with exceptions for remarkably generic filenames like untitled3.jpg)
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« Reply #258 on: August 22, 2011, 02:53:48 pm »

You have remarkable security for your vast collection of pornography.  Note that the in-theory system to spread more shameful files might not work on you, but might work well on those that name their folders "Dildo".  Less "hits the mark every time", more "likely to work on those who are blatant with file names".
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« Reply #259 on: August 22, 2011, 03:01:23 pm »

You have remarkable security for your vast collection of pornography.

It isn't really.  It's that originally I stuck them in a sub-sub folder in an inconspicuous location with a bland uninteresting folder name.  The files themselves I just used whatever filename it was uploaded with (minus the unique number the website gives all files).  I never bothered subfoldering things into categories or tagging them, and at this point the collection is just far too huge1 to want to do that now.

Any real human would find my porn in minutes, but a program would never been able to find them intentionally.

1I'd have to check, but I think I'm at 2 GB, including several short video animations and one really long one (800 MB?).
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« Reply #260 on: August 22, 2011, 04:31:17 pm »



I'd have a map, lets just say the same one from a Song of Fire and Ice (Game of Thones), accessed in Mount & Blade Style. However, not only limited to combat... you gotta eat, get armor made and so on. There would be action servers and RP servers. It is dedicated only to players of mature behavior (At least no 14y olds that walk up to the king as peasant and try to stab him with a rock then bitch at admins).

I'd imagine the possiblity for very epic battles and missions, The Man of the North march from the wall, freeing the hordes from beyond, bla bla.


Farming/resource crafting would be mostly done by NPCs with a PC in leading positions, having there own farm/mine or therelike that they lead. Death would be seriously painful and depending on your position in the game, possibly permanent (Again, server based) and everything is loot/buildable as you desire. Want a wall of wooden spikes around your farm? Go for it.
That sounds to maybe a bit more than half extent like that one game where everyone is cows.
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« Reply #261 on: August 22, 2011, 04:45:14 pm »

I was thinking the system would weight and value jpeg and text files above other types, then small video....etc. Also I would want a system in place for people to leave comments about other players, such as suspicion of hiding "valuable" files from the game or even just good natured ribbing. The best part of this game would be the spectator feature which would allow others to see the frantic action and the name of the files, but not the contents.
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« Reply #262 on: August 22, 2011, 08:23:37 pm »

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« Reply #263 on: August 23, 2011, 12:44:25 am »

You have remarkable security for your vast collection of pornography.

It isn't really.  It's that originally I stuck them in a sub-sub folder in an inconspicuous location with a bland uninteresting folder name.  The files themselves I just used whatever filename it was uploaded with (minus the unique number the website gives all files).  I never bothered subfoldering things into categories or tagging them, and at this point the collection is just far too huge1 to want to do that now.

Any real human would find my porn in minutes, but a program would never been able to find them intentionally.

1I'd have to check, but I think I'm at 2 GB, including several short video animations and one really long one (800 MB?).

I said estimate, not calculate. I said it wouldn't be foolproof. But at least it could do well against "exposed" stuff (Heh heh)...

Now I want to implement this.
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« Reply #264 on: August 23, 2011, 01:52:19 am »

Have you guys watched the Spartacus series?  In Roman times, a ludus was a sort of training ground for gladiators.  The game that I want is where you own these gladiators, and arrange for their training, as well matches.  You choose your best men for the right matches, and then the actual battles would be fully simulated, with actual, lasting injuries. 
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« Reply #265 on: August 23, 2011, 02:01:35 am »

Have you guys watched the Spartacus series?  In Roman times, a ludus was a sort of training ground for gladiators.  The game that I want is where you own these gladiators, and arrange for their training, as well matches.  You choose your best men for the right matches, and then the actual battles would be fully simulated, with actual, lasting injuries.

There already is... kind of... uh... well... see for yourself: http://www.reloaded.org/download/Extreme-Warfare-Revenge/390/
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« Reply #266 on: August 23, 2011, 02:03:09 am »

Yes but do wrestlers rip each other apart with swords, spears and nets?  If so, please give me a name and a link. 
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« Reply #267 on: August 23, 2011, 02:06:56 am »

No they don't... the permanent injury stuff sounds fascinating.
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« Reply #268 on: August 23, 2011, 02:08:21 am »

Each gladiator must have a personality, potential rivalries with your other gladiators.  They cannot just be professionals all the time, they need a life too.  What they're best at though is cleaving enemies apart in the arena.  The more matches your gladiators win for you adds both money and prestige to your ludus. 
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« Reply #269 on: August 23, 2011, 04:53:30 am »

The great thing about this thread is that DF 1.0 will answer nearly everyone's prayers.
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