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[xaritscin]

I want a game where terrain destruction is a major factor for PVP. In Minecraft I have dream scenarios about blowing holes in fortresses, destroying bridges, etc. but in practice those opportunities are rare and usually there's a faster/cheaper alternative.

I want a game where you can level a building that your enemies are inside of. Or maybe you're inside that building and have to deal with fire, collapsed rooms, etc. Or maybe the battle's on a mountainside, and you can blast the ground out from under their feet.

Okay, I'd like a more specific version of this. One of my dreams is Red Faction: Guerrilla. Mostly multiplayer. No pickups, you make your classes a la Battlefield. The entire match takes place in a massive tower, one team spawns on the top floor the other team spawns on the bottom. Fight. Then rebuild the tower and switch spawns. Standard scoring. I mean a BIGASS tower though. Like some WTC1 shit.

i think he means things like:

-felling down parts of walls or making holes on them so people can enter
-make tunnels so soldiers can infiltrate behind enemy walls

stuff like that, not as much as rebuilding after destruction but making use of the destroyed terrain for combat tactics. and well the consecuences for the people that is placed in that structure at that moment.

i dont know if Medieval Engineers can count for that. is the first thing that comes to mind

[EnigmaticHat]

I want a game where terrain destruction is a major factor for PVP. In Minecraft I have dream scenarios about blowing holes in fortresses, destroying bridges, etc. but in practice those opportunities are rare and usually there's a faster/cheaper alternative.

I want a game where you can level a building that your enemies are inside of. Or maybe you're inside that building and have to deal with fire, collapsed rooms, etc. Or maybe the battle's on a mountainside, and you can blast the ground out from under their feet.

Okay, I'd like a more specific version of this. One of my dreams is Red Faction: Guerrilla. Mostly multiplayer. No pickups, you make your classes a la Battlefield. The entire match takes place in a massive tower, one team spawns on the top floor the other team spawns on the bottom. Fight. Then rebuild the tower and switch spawns. Standard scoring. I mean a BIGASS tower though. Like some WTC1 shit.

While that does sound potentially fun, couldn't the people at the bottom of the tower just level the whole thing?

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Ya, i'm not sure... it was just always a fantasy of mine to have at least RF:G level of destruction in a shooter, and the multiplayer took place on the massive, tall maps. I think what might work would be this: Both teams spawn on the very top level and the objective is to blow up the enemy spawn point, every time you do that it moves down a level. The team who's spawn is higher at the end of the game wins? Idk, still not quite there--but it involve blowing up massive towers filled with players.

[AzyWng]

Some way to make Dead Rising an actual competitive multiplayer game would be interesting (Not like Terror is Reality or Super Dead Rising). Directly fighting other players like traditional PvP games, or maybe having some sort of zombie killing contest, with score based on PP gained through kills?

I don't know, just a thought.

[EnigmaticHat]

Ya, i'm not sure... it was just always a fantasy of mine to have at least RF:G level of destruction in a shooter, and the multiplayer took place on the massive, tall maps. I think what might work would be this: Both teams spawn on the very top level and the objective is to blow up the enemy spawn point, every time you do that it moves down a level. The team who's spawn is higher at the end of the game wins? Idk, still not quite there--but it involve blowing up massive towers filled with players.

RF:G had multiplayer.  Not like, amazing multiplayer but it was totally functional.

Unfortunately like many mid level console titles from that generation it was doomed to have the MP community die off after a few months.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

RF:G had multiplayer.  Not like, amazing multiplayer but it was totally functional.

Unfortunately like many mid level console titles from that generation it was doomed to have the MP community die off after a few months.

It was bad and the maps were shit. They really didn't take full advantage of how awesome RFGs destruction was. Some structures were designed nicely... but I'm talking about a map that is 100% destroyable--you run out of map at some point and it's round 2 lol.

[Egan_BW]

Try Rainbow Six Siege.

[rubberduck]

I want a game where terrain destruction is a major factor for PVP. In Minecraft I have dream scenarios about blowing holes in fortresses, destroying bridges, etc. but in practice those opportunities are rare and usually there's a faster/cheaper alternative.

I want a game where you can level a building that your enemies are inside of. Or maybe you're inside that building and have to deal with fire, collapsed rooms, etc. Or maybe the battle's on a mountainside, and you can blast the ground out from under their feet.

The original Ace of Spades (now living on as Build and Shoot) was kinda sorta like this. My go-to description would be WWI minecraft with destructible blocks. Create bunkers, build bridges, blow up said structures with hand grenades, or see them worn down by weapons fire. it was fun while it lasted, but these days there aren't a whole lot of active servers, and those that are generally doesn't focus all that much on the building aspect (thus leaving nothing to be torn down). And the creator never did get around to make machine guns, mortars or other heavy weapons.

[JoshuaFH]

wrong thread.

[EnigmaticHat]

I thought, you know what would be cool?  A MOBA (so like LoL) in which each item can only be bought once, and once its gone everyone else in the game has to buy less efficient or just different variants.

But then I actually thought about it and realized how incredibly toxic that game would be.  Add the toxicity of competing with your own teammates to get items, with the toxicity inherent to the genre... would not be a fun time.

[itisnotlogical]

League already has enough ways to screw your teammates over, either intentionally or just by playing poorly.

[PTTG??]

Multiplayer squad-based RTS/RPG.

Each player has a squad of characters with RPG-style traits. These characters level up, have equipment, and even have personalities which might conflict. The players work collaboratively or competitively to fight battles, then at the conclusion of each fight, they return home and redistribute stats.

Characters have permadeath, although there are ways around that (recovering wounded, which might be part of a tactical retreat). Players replace losses by drawing from a shared pool of recruits, and they bid for contracts, so promising recruits can go dear.

The actual setting itself could be anything from a direct copy of xcom to an SCP-style MIB Squad thing to a group of knightly orders in a fantasy world. The important thing is, build your team, work with/against your buddies, and (thematic slogan thing goes here).

[milo christiansen]

That could work really well (it sounds awesome). Now you just need to learn game programming and you can be rich!

[Parsely]

Yeah! That's why everyone who has ideas and knows game programming is rich!

[milo christiansen]

The problem is that good ideas, good marketing ability, and programming skills seldom all reside in a single individual...

So long as someone has #1 and #3 they should be able to hire #2 once they have something worth selling (but it takes a heroic amount of (unpaid) work to get to that point).