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[umiman]

Witch Doctor's ward is actually a separate, untargetable unit that attacks with fountain attack speed.

So yeah, just like how Venomancer's wards can be evaded, so can the Death Ward.

[Thexor]

Two interesting games tonight.

First game, I randomed Puck. I do alright mid versus Pudge (should've done better), our other two lanes start dominating. We're ahead ~20 kills by this point, take their mid rax, everything's looking good. Suddenly, and seemingly with no transition period, their Alchemist goes from "Shadowblade + stun then die" into "HOLY %&*$ I'VE GOT BKB + AC + BASHER" and proceeded to murder our entire team. Our Lion getting caught out of position 3 times in a row didn't help, to be fair. We lost a game that, honestly, we should've won. 

Second game, I randomed VS and swapped with a randomed Warlock. Again mid, again do alright (versus a pretty decent Invoker). Their team has a Huskar, though, and after a few mediocre fights we're in danger of losing. Then Jugg starts getting solo picks, our Slark starts murdering, and I manage to farm an Aghs. The rest of the game consisted of me dropping the rock somewhere near the fight, right-clicking our fountain, and microing the golems while Slark + Jugg ran around killing stuff and my hero prayed that he'd run back to base. We won a game that, honestly, we should've lost. 


This may provide some justification to Valve's stance of "no, we aren't adding a concede button", because I'm pretty sure both of those games would've ended much earlier, and with a win for the opposite team, if surrender was an option.

[Alkhemia]

You can come back from anything in dota one teamfight late game can win or lose you the game.
Someone get caught out of position/You smoke up and take a free rosh/You smoke up and get a pick off/etc

Also you learn to never let a alch get free farm he must of had a midas.

[Simmura McCrea]

Suddenly, and seemingly with no transition period, their Alchemist goes from "Shadowblade + stun then die" into "HOLY %&*$ I'VE GOT BKB + AC + BASHER" and proceeded to murder our entire team.

Clearly you've never seen Alchemist properly played before. This is what he does.

[Stworca]

You can come back from anything in dota

No, you can not. In 60+ minute games? Sure.
Anything less, and some gaps are too big. Join the "Stop the 'Game isn't over until ancient falls' lies 2013" group.

[Alkhemia]

You can come back from anything in dota

No, you can not. In 60+ minute games? Sure.
Anything less, and some gaps are too big. Join the "Stop the 'Game isn't over until ancient falls' lies 2013" group.

well I mean a game of dota not a stomp

On another note I found out the stream group had a bad apple in it as in some bot called community admin that was try to steal people credit card info it has been taken care of but to make sure the group is invite only now. (Thanks to Kilakan for the heads up)

[ukulele]

What? there was a bot trying to steal credit cards? I would like to think B12 is avobe the rest of the internet and none of us would fall for that.

[kilakan]

What? there was a bot trying to steal credit cards? I would like to think B12 is avobe the rest of the internet and none of us would fall for that.

No idea if anyone did fall for it or not, but I realized immediately that when I got the message the url link it gave 'From the community admin's random prize draw' was a redirect link with steampowered misspelt as steampowred, for a game I don't think actually exists and has some long bullshit .drop.in.ta.ect tacked on

[RexMundi]

Any chance I can join this B12 Dota group? My name is rexmundi15 on there

[Alkhemia]

Any chance I can join this B12 Dota group? My name is rexmundi15 on there

i'll add you next time i'm on
Edit: I'm so happy in one of the Navi vs Lgd.cn games Navi pick a Clinkz and funnik was a monster.

So how many people here watch pro dota?

[Stworca]

Is that a rhetorical question? You have to watch pro dota to know how to improve. 

That Clinkz pickup caught Lgd with their pants down, bending over to pick up the soap. The Chinese LGD can come back, though (game 3 going on). They play the boring, shitty farm-for-an-hour 4+1 Dota, but it works often.
Still, Funn1k is the MVP in 4 out of every 5 games. Amazing plays, the gem of Na'Vi.

With this being said, i want to see Xbox team up with Rotk one day, and fountain dive 5 minutes into the game, as fucking Meepo + CM. You know they would.

[Alkhemia]

Yeah but he getting better less crazy aggressive.

[Stworca]

Must be all the thrown games.

Then again, the group stage of Alienware didn't matter, so they could go 0-8 (they went 1-7) and it's a great time to check things out. I mean.. They went Mask of Madness Lina once Trying out strategies - Throwboct seeing how far he can dive - against top CN teams with nothing to lose.

Shotgun SF is a nice build.

[Alkhemia]

hmmm on to game 4 I wonder how this next one will go.

[Stworca]

As long as LGD doesn't get their bullshit AM offensive trilane with a Treant offlane/jungle (so essentially an offensive quadlane), it's at least going to be a game.

AM, SD + Treant, and then another 2. The Ukrainians don't know how to deal with that.
Edit : Then again.. Who does. Nerf Treant '13