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Angel-of-Dusk

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I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« on: August 03, 2011, 08:45:30 pm »

Bronze Colossus will not die. Two squads of egendary hammerlords have fallen to the beast, I have him contained, but I fear one day he will get out. How is this possible? I thought bronze colossus were killable now?
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 08:50:08 pm »

Hammers don't do too well against bronze.

Steel hammers might, but try some good swords and axes.
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 09:12:51 pm »

Steel hammers would be terrible against a bronze colossus, being the second lightest non-mood material you can make a weapon out of. Use silver hammers and steel or iron slashing weapons. Other approaches available to you are:

1. You have him contained, so just drop the roof on him. Cave-ins instantly kill anything directly below the falling material.

2. Use magma to melt him.

3. Catch him in a flimsy wooden cage. Megabeasts don't have trapavoid IIRC, so a cage trap will work just fine on him.
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 09:26:09 pm »

Um.. steel is rather heavy actually.. its the 2nd best non-modded hammer material, after silver.
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 09:29:21 pm »

Step 1.) Pick up fluffy wambler
Step 2.) Throw it at colossus
Step 3.) Party within his head. (Don't forget the booze!)

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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 09:29:36 pm »

Quote from: steel
   [SOLID_DENSITY:7850]
Quote from: bronze
   [SOLID_DENSITY:8250]
Quote from: silver
   [SOLID_DENSITY:10490]

Silvers the best, bronze is better then steel, but not by much. Still, go with slashing weapons or magma.
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 09:31:41 pm »

Um.. steel is rather heavy actually.. its the 2nd best non-modded hammer material, after silver.

The raws say otherwise.

iron:
[SOLID_DENSITY:7850]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:6980]
[MOLAR_MASS:55845]

silver:
[SOLID_DENSITY:10490]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:9320]
[MOLAR_MASS:107868]

copper:
[SOLID_DENSITY:8930]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:8020]
[MOLAR_MASS:63546]

bronze:
[SOLID_DENSITY:8250]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:8020]
[MOLAR_MASS:80000]

steel:
[SOLID_DENSITY:7850]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:6980]
[MOLAR_MASS:55845]
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2011, 09:37:17 pm »

Hmm.. odd.. lol well, shows what I know! No wonder steel warhammer suck. I'll make sure to remember this.
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2011, 09:40:57 pm »

Cave-ins instantly kill anything directly below the falling material.

I learned this the hard way, the ghost still haunts my magma chambers ;)

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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 01:20:42 am »

He's contained? Build some cage traps and let him out.

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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 01:56:12 am »

I had a forgotten beast made of bronze once. A squad of axedorfs with steel axes chopped it down in the matter of seconds.
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 02:00:35 am »

Hmm.. odd.. lol well, shows what I know! No wonder steel warhammer suck. I'll make sure to remember this.

Actually, contrary to what was said earlier, I think the problem is not that steel is a bad material for war hammers (it's pretty good, at least according to the Wiki) but that the type of damage the warhammer does is not very good against Bronze Colossi. For an organic creature like a goblin, a warhammer will smash the skull in and bash the bones to pulp. For a creature that is solid metal, it's not going to do that.
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 03:03:46 am »

thought hammers were good for fracturing inorganics.... enough fractures and the part falls off.... right?
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 03:13:33 am »

Enough fractures will kill it, yes, but pummeling with a hammer isn't going to be the best option - it's more like denting it. The Wiki recommends weapons with small contact areas (whips!) or lopping off limbs with swords and axes (not easy).
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Re: I cannot defeat Bronze Colossus
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 05:41:53 am »

Do you have any legendary miners? Draft them into their own squad and give them steel picks.
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