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[Darkmere]

Ah yep, that's the point I was trying to make earlier, stated more simply I suppose. If the character data is only accessible from Blizzard servers, you can't play without it, or without connecting to their servers.

[Neonivek]

Ah yep, that's the point I was trying to make earlier, stated more simply I suppose. If the character data is only accessible from Blizzard servers, you can't play without it, or without connecting to their servers.

Which makes sense.

I mean since there is REAL money involved now officially (as in your items are worth real life money) it means the game has to become more like a MMO.

[Bdthemag]

Starcraft III=MMO

[Darkmere]

Starcraft III=MMO

What does that have to do with anything in this thread? Is pointless trolling necessary?

[scriver]

I'm pretty sure he's just pointing out what he feels is a trend in Blizzard games.

[Darkmere]

I feel no obligation to understand a point that isn't worth expressing in a complete sentence. Looks like petty trolling to me.

[ChairmanPoo]

Starcraft II used a simmilar DRM and yet was cracked.

For that matter, many MMORPGs have been cracked and people have set up private servers.

I don't think this is going to stop anyone.

[ThtblovesDF]

D2 (are we to lazy to spell out Diablo 2?) pvp was quite amusing "Raw, I can one hit everyone - sadly they can do the same to me"

[ChairmanPoo]

Hammerdins killed EVERYTHING.

That was one build that was so good that you could afford to max a secondary skill for the hell of it.

I tended to pick charge, pretty much only because of the speed burst.

[kerlc]

the pirating of D3 can be achieved (as far as i can understand) by getting all the files that the game needs on blizzard servers to your computer, then it needs an emulation of the server so that the game says: "okay, buddy, start the download!" and since you already have the files, the game will be that quicker to load. that's a simple explanation, but i believe that it will be a tad more difficult. but i also beleve that the pirate version will be cracked and ready to go in dunno...3 days?

[forsaken1111]

If true, this also means more people playing D3 = slower play due to bandwidth and server loads, and if the servers go down you cannot play at all. Seems like an excellent reason not to buy it.

[Darkmere]

If true, this also means more people playing D3 = slower play due to bandwidth and server loads, and if the servers go down you cannot play at all. Seems like an excellent reason not to buy it.

If WoW's servers can handle being up all the time with hundreds of people connected per server, and only go down an hour or two a week... I'm pretty sure D3's 4-player non-persistent world probably isn't going to choke and die.

Starcraft 2 has an offline play mode, i.e. all files for gameplay are stored locally. That is less "similar DRM" and more "completely different and easier to crack" as previously stated. Also, someone's going to reverse engineer 4 or 5 years of server code in 3 days? Keep dreaming...

[forsaken1111]

If true, this also means more people playing D3 = slower play due to bandwidth and server loads, and if the servers go down you cannot play at all. Seems like an excellent reason not to buy it.

If WoW's servers can handle being up all the time with hundreds of people connected per server, and only go down an hour or two a week... I'm pretty sure D3's 4-player non-persistent world probably isn't going to choke and die.

Apples are not oranges. D3 will not have the massive server-side architecture that WoW does.

And if you recall, WoW had a lot of problems with too many people logging in right at launch and a few months after that. Their servers did actually choke and die from the traffic at launch due to the massive amount of people logging in to play. They had to take them down for a while and implement server caps and stepped logins just to get people playing and stable servers.

[Darkmere]

What's your source on the D3 server architecture? Or is this just an assumption that it will suck because..... WoW's servers sucked several years ago?

Also, you just said I can't compare D3 and WoW, and then used WoW's launch to illustrate D3's launch.

[kerlc]

If true, this also means more people playing D3 = slower play due to bandwidth and server loads, and if the servers go down you cannot play at all. Seems like an excellent reason not to buy it.

If WoW's servers can handle being up all the time with hundreds of people connected per server, and only go down an hour or two a week... I'm pretty sure D3's 4-player non-persistent world probably isn't going to choke and die.

Starcraft 2 has an offline play mode, i.e. all files for gameplay are stored locally. That is less "similar DRM" and more "completely different and easier to crack" as previously stated. Also, someone's going to reverse engineer 4 or 5 years of server code in 3 days? Keep dreaming...

who says you need to reverse engineer anything? and you seem to be seriously underestimating the pirates. they will probably have it a few days before the release, and will have knowledge of blizzard servers, and their protection from SC2, wich will change, but i do not believe the change will be so drastic. or the pirates will just abuse the "offline game" thing.