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[VerdantSF]

I connected my trade depot to the map edge with a paved road.  The next caravan arrived nowhere close to it.  Does the road need to be a certain width?  Does it all need to be on the same z-level?  There's one spot where it ramps up 1 level higher.

[HorridOwn4ge]

Roads dont work this way anymore same reason why caravans don't need a 3 tile wide corridor to get somewhere.

[VerdantSF]

Will the caravans for each civ always appear at the same point year after year, or do they bounce around randomly?

[HorridOwn4ge]

Will the caravans for each civ always appear at the same point year after year, or do they bounce around randomly?

'tis random

[IT 000]

Roads dont work this way anymore same reason why caravans don't need a 3 tile wide corridor to get somewhere.

Oh ye 31 generation...

The three tile wide section was required for wagons, not necessarily caravans.

Roads never persuaded merchants to spawn at a certain point, but rather they were meant to make a clear path that couldn't have trees grow and block the wagons.

[VerdantSF]

Roads never persuaded merchants to spawn at a certain point, but rather they were meant to make a clear path that couldn't have trees grow and block the wagons.

Ohhhhh!

[Crustypeanut]

I look forward to wagons again.. when they had a wagon. I'm guessing they brought a TON more goods aye?  I started after they weren't there anymore :\

[twwolfe]

I look forward to wagons again.. when they had a wagon. I'm guessing they brought a TON more goods aye?  I started after they weren't there anymore :\

Actually, the amount pack animals could carry was bumped way up for the post-wagon generations, so the amount of stuff we got was about the same as we get now.

[Sphalerite]

Will the caravans for each civ always appear at the same point year after year, or do they bounce around randomly?

If there is a 3 tile wide path from your trade depot to a edge of the map that the civilization sending the caravan can reach, then the caravan will only appear on a spot that is connected to your trade depot by a 3 tile wide path.  You can see if this path exists by pressing 'D' after building a trade depot, although this doesn't take into account the fact that sometimes a civilization can only reach certain map edges.  If there is no 3 tile wide path from your trade depot to a map edge, the caravan will appear on any random map edge.  The game still checks for a 3 tile wide path for caravan placement even though wagons don't exist anymore.

[malvado]

Let's hope toady can fix a few things with caravans and diplomats like :

*Their civilization coming from the edge of the map (as long as its not an impassable mountain biome ) that makes sense for their civilization.
*Make roads a bit more usefull for your dwarves ( faster movement speed , prefer roads when going from one part of the map to another ).

[Corneria]

Let's hope toady can fix a few things with caravans and diplomats like :

*Their civilization coming from the edge of the map (as long as its not an impassable mountain biome ) that makes sense for their civilization.
*Make roads a bit more usefull for your dwarves ( faster movement speed , prefer roads when going from one part of the map to another ).

I thought the first already happened to an extent?

[Sphalerite]

Let's hope toady can fix a few things with caravans and diplomats like :

*Their civilization coming from the edge of the map (as long as its not an impassable mountain biome ) that makes sense for their civilization.
*Make roads a bit more usefull for your dwarves ( faster movement speed , prefer roads when going from one part of the map to another ).

I thought the first already happened to an extent?

Sort of.  Civilizations will only come from edges of the map they can reach, but in most embark sites all map edges are reachable.  You only see otherwise when you have a river or similar impassible barrier dividing your embark site.  What would make sense would be for caravans to prefer to arrive on the side of the map closest to the civilization they're coming from.  Maybe when Toady adds the caravan arc, with caravan movements around the world actually being tracked, we'll see this.

[buckets]

Wait we don't get wagons? When did that happen?

[Moonshadow101]

Wait we don't get wagons? When did that happen?

I think it should be a mandatory forum rule that everyone should have to put the version of the game they're playing in their sig, or something. Would make statements like this much easier to answer.