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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2011, 12:02:18 pm »

Reminder of something I saw months ago Nautilus-X, and it will test the first (long-term) artificial G generation centrifuge on ISS. Although a very small centrifuge no more than 40 feet, but it's the first baby step. Give you what spaceship may really look like in our time. And it's quite cheap actually in space vehicle term (3.7 billions, compare to NASA annul funds of about 20 billions), space colonization may not be that expensive as you think. (Build the transport ship first.)

you can find the official powerpoint about it on
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=36068


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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2011, 12:23:15 pm »

Reminder of something I saw months ago Nautilus-X, and it will test the first (long-term) artificial G generation centrifuge on ISS. Although a very small centrifuge no more than 40 feet, but it's the first baby step. Give you what spaceship may really look like in our time. And it's quite cheap actually in space vehicle term (3.7 billions, compare to NASA annul funds of about 20 billions), space colonization may not be that expensive as you think. (Build the transport ship first.)

you can find the official powerpoint about it on
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=36068


Yesssssss. Even looks a bit like a proper space-ship.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2011, 03:49:48 pm »

That's actually not half bad for something that can sustain six people for two years.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2011, 04:19:57 pm »

Why only a decent vehicle hangar? I'd want all the stuff used for space exploration to be top quality.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2011, 04:22:22 pm »

Maybe they misspelled 'descent', but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2011, 04:32:18 pm »

We can go to Mars in five weeks with nuclear rocketry.

Just saying.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2011, 04:34:14 pm »

Maybe they misspelled 'descent', but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.
It's almost certainly not that. Descent requires there to be Down, which there is not in Zero-G, unless the centrifuge is powerful enough to make there be Down.
We can go to Mars in five weeks with nuclear rocketry.

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Not entirely, Mars has to be in synch with Earth when said explorers arrive for an ETA that is at all reasonable.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2011, 04:42:55 pm »

It could mean descent onto another celestial body. Perhaps reentry to Earth or possibly Mars or the Moon.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2011, 04:49:56 pm »

ITT: Space is the place
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2011, 04:58:18 pm »

"descent vehicle" means landing vehicle, or landing pod. ""descent vehicle hangar" - A docking airlock plus hangar to park the "descent vehicle". The entire thing is designed to be a mediate transportation between moon and earth, and you don't "land" the entire ship, you just drop a pod, and it needs a place to dock.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2011, 10:55:47 am »

Although I made post about population problems on Earth, I think my rely there is related to space colonization as well

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=90130.msg2500216#msg2500216
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2011, 01:03:30 pm »

Although I made post about population problems on Earth, I think my rely there is related to space colonization as well

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=90130.msg2500216#msg2500216
I like that post.
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Re: The case for space colonization
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2011, 01:11:20 pm »

...the problem of getting into space becomes significantly less hard.

It also becomes significantly less lucrative.  It replaces the potential rush to space with a slow trickle.  It doesn't offer a solution to scarcity, overcrowding and wars if it remains too niche for mass exodus.  It just becomes another way for the rich to extract rents from the economy.
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