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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2011, 05:28:57 pm »

On the top ten places I wish to go before I die, Space is hands down Number. One.

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The value of venus is in the extremely rich atmosphere, which would be a great boon to a subterranean (subvenusian?) colony.

In theory, at about 1500 feet off the ground, Venus has the exact same atmospheric pressure as Earth does, just different components.
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 05:45:06 pm »

The value of venus is in the extremely rich atmosphere, which would be a great boon to a subterranean (subvenusian?) colony.

In fact in seriousness and sound engineering point, it makes more sense to build "floating colonies" on Venus. Since it's dense atmosphere is good for floating platforms. And it's easy to extract the rich atmosphere beneath. And no expensive pressure supporting structure needed. 
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2011, 05:49:50 pm »

The value of venus is in the extremely rich atmosphere, which would be a great boon to a subterranean (subvenusian?) colony.

In fact in seriousness and sound engineering point, it makes more sense to build "floating colonies" on Venus. Since it's dense atmosphere is good for floating platforms. And it's easy to extract the rich atmosphere beneath. And no expensive pressure supporting structure needed.
Looking cool as hell is also an important factor.
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2011, 05:51:51 pm »

Man, if these space discussions are any indication, the future's gonna be awesome.

Damn this mortal shell for probably not letting me live long enough to see it.
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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2011, 05:55:44 pm »

Man, if these space discussions are any indication, the future's gonna be awesome.

Damn this mortal shell for probably not letting me live long enough to see it.
I am sure we will live long enough to see many wonderful things.
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2011, 06:01:18 pm »

Man, if these space discussions are any indication, the future's gonna be awesome.

Damn this mortal shell for probably not letting me live long enough to see it.
I am sure we will live long enough to see many wonderful things.
Until the eyes of said puny mortal shell begin to go.
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2011, 06:03:06 pm »

Until the eyes of said puny mortal shell begin to go.
Then get some cybernetic eyes. We already have cybernetic hearts, at this very moment, implanted in people who would otherwise be dead. The cybernetic eyes can't be that far away.
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2011, 06:09:16 pm »

Until the eyes of said puny mortal shell begin to go.
Then get some cybernetic eyes. We already have cybernetic hearts, at this very moment, implanted in people who would otherwise be dead. The cybernetic eyes can't be that far away.
The way eyes operate and interface with the brain is not mechanical like the pumping of the heart. Emulating sensory perception and delicate motor functions will not be easy, even by near-future standards--or so I would think.
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2011, 06:12:30 pm »

We actually do have functional mechanical eyes.
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2011, 06:14:42 pm »

From what I've overheard about those, they're good for seeing outlines of shapes but not much else.
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2011, 06:14:54 pm »

Until the eyes of said puny mortal shell begin to go.
Then get some cybernetic eyes. We already have cybernetic hearts, at this very moment, implanted in people who would otherwise be dead. The cybernetic eyes can't be that far away.
The way eyes operate and interface with the brain is not mechanical like the pumping of the heart. Emulating sensory perception and delicate motor functions will not be easy, even by near-future standards--or so I would think.
The way the heart operates and interfaces with the circulatory system is not something we can make into a small machine. Emulating rhythmic pumping and delicate blood pressurization functions will not be easy, even by near-future standards--OH WAIT.

Science marches on, and by now it's doing so at a running pace.
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2011, 06:22:48 pm »

"Bionic Eye" you can google this. Already happened

Or perhaps Singularity will happen quicker before we colonizing the space? Singularity is quite an amusing concept. Perhaps 1 trillion virtual human beings will be far plausible than "living" human beings.
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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2011, 10:45:11 am »

Come to think of it. That even partial cybernetic human beings, can greatly reduce the need of food and even living space. Kind of a grim look of the future though, "get modified or die in hunger"
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The stark assumption:
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Nelson and Winter:
The challenge to an evolutionary formation is this: it must provide an analysis that at least comes close to matching the power of the neoclassical theory to predict and illuminate the macro-economic patterns of growth

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Re: 1 trillion people in the future
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2011, 11:04:11 am »

Well, I personally wouldn't mind, say, a cybernetic hand. Especially if it helps me type faster :P
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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2011, 12:04:38 pm »

I'm hoping this technology goes somewhere myself. I'm kinda wary of relying on cybernetics.

 I think our best bet is the oceans myself, both the surface and the deep. Hopefully without destroying the ocean's ecosystem. We will probably need to limit the amount of children people can have though. Assuming of course that no plagues, wars, or other disasters keep human population in check.
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