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[feelotraveller]

A decent source for the spread of Linux OS's is:

https://distrowatch.com/ find on the right of the main page, currently.

Of course this is a different data set - hits per day on a web site, so interest in particular operating systems.  I have seen similar figures in Reddit what Linux OS do you use survey/polls (too lazy to check at the moment) so in the big picture it's pretty accurate.  Pretty sure that of the top 10 (at this moment) only Mint and Ubuntu (and maybe Zorin?) are Ubuntu based. 

The spread of gamers over this set is another question and I suspect that leans more heavily toward Ubuntu since many game players migrating from Windows are likely to land there (or Mint) at least as a first point of call.

I think one of the factors for Valve when embarking on SteamOS was potential use/popularity of the system (=Ubuntu based, hopefully being able to handle Debian).  That they introduced it leads me to suspect that they think a decent sized market exists.

In terms of pure gaming speed Arch might be the best Linux OS for gaming especially if configured as a stripped down lightweight (only what is necessary) version.  Probably not something for the faint hearted to jump right into though.  However there are a number of specific gaming Linux OS's that I have no knowledge of beyond the fact that they exist.

On a different tangent, I find it interesting that it is generally the small to mid-level developers who are prepared to support multiple platforms.

[crazysheep]

On a different tangent, I find it interesting that it is generally the small to mid-level developers who are prepared to support multiple platforms.

Could it simply be the size of the project influencing cross platform support? One would naively assume that bigger projects attempted by big developers have more elements which could fail on separate platforms.

[Insanegame27]

Holy shit I just saw this and have been laughing for the last 5 minutes ohgod i cant stop


http://i.imgur.com/CVGuY.jpg

[Thief^]

On a different tangent, I find it interesting that it is generally the small to mid-level developers who are prepared to support multiple platforms.

Could it simply be the size of the project influencing cross platform support? One would naively assume that bigger projects attempted by big developers have more elements which could fail on separate platforms.

More likely is that smaller developers are less likely to actually run a cost/benefit analysis on supporting those platforms.

[Sonlirain]

Ok so i got a P44 gamepad for PC and PS3 with analog triggers.
http://genesis-zone.com/en/product/p44-gamepad-2/
It genuinely feels nice and solid (not heavy tho) and unlike my old pad it does not give a feeling that it's going to shake itself apart every time vibration comes on.

Now the problem with this specimen is that... while it has analog trigger buttons i can't make them work no matter what i try.
I tried x360ce and it detected the triggers as regular buttons (not analog) and my attempts at setting them as half sliders/axis were met with failure.

Since it uses direct input when connected to a PC i assume it just can't use analog with a PC and the feature only works with PS3...

Does anyone have any experience with setting up d-input gamepads?

[Thief^]

Does it have its own driver available? Sometimes devices (generally) support a more basic feature set with a generic driver and require the installation of their own driver to have all features.

Also, DirectInput is deprecated. The current standard (on Windows) is XInput. If x360ce still uses DirectInput that could be the problem, as there are well known issues with analogue triggers under DirectInput (e.g. the xbox360 pad has to expose its two triggers as positive/negative of a _single_ axis under DirectInput, but they are independent analogue inputs under XInput).

You only need x360ce if your controller doesn't already support XInput. For a brand new controller, I'd be surprised.

[Sonlirain]

I installed the drivers before even messing with x360ce.

I obviously knew the pad won't use ximput and didn't care because i'm used to using x360ce.
I kinda hoped that the triggers would work dinput or not considering it was one of the selling points.
So far however i can't set the triggers to anything but digital.
Otherwise they just straight up fail to detect any button press.

[Thief^]

All x360ce is is a converter from dinput to xinput. If the pad already supports xinput, using x360ce is only making things worse.

[Sonlirain]

Tried it with Renegade OPS.
I removed x360ce and verified the game cache (just in case) but the game completely failed to detect it at all.
Also considering that it actually works with x360ce instead of showing off a load of errors i'm inclined to believe that its indeed dinput...
So i guess it only supports analog triggers when plugged to a PS3 because i don't see any obvious way to make it work otherwise.

I might be able to return it and get a P65... that model actually supports xinput.
http://genesis-zone.com/en/product/p65-gamepad-2/

Kinda weird how they flaunted analog triggers on a pad that can't use them tho...

[Thief^]

Yeah that's a surprise. Dinput is very dead, MS don't allow it on any Windows Store apps, for example. It's a Direct-x 9 tech, for goodness sake.

Btw it's not either/or between dinput and xinput, the 360 pad is both (though as mentioned it's triggers don't work properly on dinput), and I haven't heard of any xinput-only pads.

[Sonlirain]

Well i don't have any xinput pads (yet) co i couldn't test a xinput pad on x360ce.
All i know is that they suggest against trying to use xinput pads with x360ce.

Well i went ahead and bought a 360 pad. I hate the design of that brick but... oh well.
Also funny enough x360ce detects it's analog triggers without issue...
Altho i assume it just detects the pad as X360 and forgoes the translation bit.

Basically it's only there so i can use D-input pads alongside it in split screen games.

[Insanegame27]

Upooting my win7 PC to win10 now. Anything I should expect when I'm done? Also how long should it take?

[Insanegame27]

Aaand updoot successful... to some degree. I'm shown the 'welcome to windows 10' screen and hit next. After the welcome to windows 10 screen stops responding, the PC restarts. Every single time.

[Rose]

YOU HAVE DIED

[Insanegame27]

Well, after unplugging my wifi adapter of all things and rebooting I was able to get past the screen. Now waiting for what I assume to be the initialisation to finish... It's a black screen -oop, the PC just rebooted of its own accord...