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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #2640 on: May 02, 2016, 09:13:42 pm »

That sounds like far too much effort for something that is not that great to begin with.
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« Reply #2641 on: May 03, 2016, 01:04:06 am »

The only trouble I had installing Windows 10 was freeing enough disk space (tiny SSD system drive). And that was one out of 4 (I think) installs I've done so far.

The screen out of range issue is probably because he's got a shit VGA monitor that doesn't report it's supported resolutions properly. "Out of range" means frequency too high, aka resolution / refresh rate too high. It's specifically a VGA thing, anyone using a modern monitor won't have this issue (and yes, places are still selling VGA-only monitors, and no that doesn't make them modern).

Yes antivirus etc get uninstalled, having an av for the wrong OS installed would be hilariously breaking, it could even break the setup and/or rollback and leave you with a trashed PC. Just install the right version after Windows 10 is installed, or hell use Windows' built-in, it's better than most paid ones (ditto the firewall).

Still don't know what he's talking about with adverts. I've not seen any and I've been using 10 for over a year (I was in the preview).

Even I disable Cortana though.
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« Reply #2642 on: May 03, 2016, 02:17:24 am »

There are app suggestions in the start menu sometimes, apparently. It takes all of two clicks to permanently switch them off.
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« Reply #2643 on: May 03, 2016, 04:21:09 am »

There are app suggestions in the start menu sometimes, apparently. It takes all of two clicks to permanently switch them off.
Yep.
2 clicks for each.
And a bootleg app store built in to remove as well.
And then you have ads in the free windows games.

Still that's the first time i saw the blocky start menu cancer.
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« Reply #2644 on: May 03, 2016, 04:30:46 am »

They are just trying to unify their games branding, given "Windows Live" went down like a tonne of bricks.

I removed most of the tiles from my start menu, I mostly just use taskbar pinned stuff. I have a phone for news and weather etc, I don't need them on my desktop.

I'd pin more tiles if I didn't have all the games I play in steam, I suppose.
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« Reply #2645 on: May 03, 2016, 10:11:44 am »

It went down like a ton of bricks because it was crap and now they are trying to unify the windows platform with Xbox.
If what they did with Tomb raider is any indication of what's to come we can safely assume this attempt will drop dead sooner than later as well.

Also Win10 didn't remove my antivirus Avast is alive and well (even tho it's actively trying to annoy me lately so i'm thinking about replacing it). It only removed Search and Destroy. A program i used to periodically remove adware cookies and related crap.
I could install it right back however and it runs just fine.

As for my monitor... yes it IS a VGA monitor and i'm not going to buy a new 1080p (or replace it with 1440) just because Windows 10 throws a hissy fit demanding DVI monitor despite VGA being fully capable of carrying resolution info.
It's just lazy programming.
The least they could do is set it to a low resolution (supported by most microwaves and most modern toasters) if W10 couldn't guess my monitors native resolution.
Win 10 was literally the first OS to actively try breaking itself by setting some weird high resolution (as i learned later it wanted to run in 1600:900 probably supported only by custom built monitors used in Malaysia and Gabon) instead of just going with low res and letting the user decide.

Neither win 7 nor XP ever caused any fuss over the resolution for me hell even freaking Vista didn't do it and it was an unmitigated disaster of Sonic 06 proportions that even Microsoft openly told people to just forget about it ever existing.
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« Reply #2646 on: May 03, 2016, 11:10:14 am »

I'm not going to argue in favour of the XBOX branding, I was just explaining it.

As for Avast not being removed... it's probably specifically marked as Win10 compatible. S&D may be compatible but not marked, or you may have had an incompatible version installed and have installed an updated version after upgrading without realising. As for replacing Avast - I personally think Windows Defender (the AV built-in to Win 8+) is fantastic, especially with OS-wide smartscreen enabled (warns if an executable isn't recognised by the AV, rather than just guessing it's fine like other AVs). Microsoft's database is nonsense-huge.

I don't recall if VGA advertises specific resolutions or just max H/V frequencies. If the latter, it's possible your monitor inadvertently advertises support for a resolution it doesn't actually support due to it falling within the required frequency limits. I do know Windows 10 tries to use the highest advertised resolution by default, to avoid a poor experience for non-techies upgrading and ending up with their display looking like shit until they change it manually (which they won't know how to do). Letting the user decide... hahaha! Have you met normal users?

Windows 10 doesn't demand DVI (it actually has no idea about the cable), I was just saying VGA is shit. Which it is. Issues like this are not uncommon with VGA, nothing to do with Windows 10. DVI is actually out-dated also, the current standards are HDMI and DisplayPort. Unlike DVI, neither of those can be converted to VGA with a passive adapter. Analogue video cables are dead dude. You shouldn't be surprised that there are issues with compatibility with a brand-new OS.

1600x900 is a perfectly common resolution, a load of laptops have it and there were even some desktop TFTs made to that before 1080p became so damn common. The steam hardware survey lists 6.63% of steam users as using that resolution.
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« Reply #2647 on: May 03, 2016, 11:18:08 am »

1600x900 is infact, my current resolution.
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« Reply #2648 on: May 03, 2016, 11:24:00 am »

It's actually the 3rd most-common resolution after 1920x1080 and 1366x768, according to steam.

I wonder what resolution his monitor actually is.
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« Reply #2649 on: May 03, 2016, 11:33:43 am »

Well it seems to handle 1080p pretty well so i guess that's it's resolution.
Also my old monitor was 768p
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« Reply #2650 on: May 03, 2016, 11:37:23 am »

Not necessarily. My TV advertises 1080p support and so Windows will default to that but it's actually a 1366x768 panel (it's a relatively old "HD Ready") and downscales a 1080p image. It "seems" to work at 1080p, it's just slightly blurrier than it should be. I get a much better picture by lowering the resolution to 1366x768 instead (not unsurprisingly, given that's it's actual native resolution).

I'm surprised your monitor can't handle 1600x900 if it can handle 1080p, though.
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« Reply #2651 on: May 03, 2016, 11:51:02 am »

I owned a 768 before and i'm sitting pretty close to this one. There is simply no way this can be a stretched 768p.

As for the resolution. Now i'm not sure maybe W10 was trying to use 1600 x 1200.
I just remember it being 1600 x something.

As for the average users... at least when you set it manually you get a screen giving you 15 seconds to accept the new resolution.
So even a brainless git will find a working resolution sooner or later via trial and error.
Win 10 gives you no such chance if it fucks up and wasted a sizable chunk of my life as i tried fixing it.

EDIT: Just double checked. it was indeed setting it to 1200p not 900.
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« Reply #2652 on: May 03, 2016, 12:02:00 pm »

I miss my 1600x1200 19" CRT :(

>100 DPI, compared to the shitty DPI we've been stuck with on massive 1080p panels for years now.
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« Reply #2653 on: May 03, 2016, 05:47:53 pm »

Figured I'd ask here rather than make a thread in the subforum that I never look at. So, as I've posted in various threads all across the forum, my laptop is a piece of shit. The power cord finally gave out, so now it has no power, either. In other words, I'm in need of a proper desktop. I have a budget of anywhere between $1400 and $2000; I can't imagine going over $2000. Suggestions are appreciated for parts. Yes, I've already looked at logicalincrements.com, so no need to suggest that.

I think you'll have to give us a bit more to go on to get any concrete feedback on parts.  But since I just went through the process here are a couple of helpful starting points:

Google pcpartpicker and choose the one most local to you.  Then look at the parts list in various categories and weep (at least I did, metaphorically).  Okay all the choice that it makes your head spin, right?  So start nailing things down, at least provisionally...  I suggest making an account so that you can add/subtract parts to a potential build as you go - you'll probably make quite a few changes during the process and this helps keep track of it.

I found this article http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2601.html provided a useful framework to proceed around, although I left the case selection until the end.  Basically decide on a CPU, select a graphics card, then motherboard.  After that whatever order you like but probably power supply last (once you know the demands).  Now for some search-fu.

Do you need a monitor, keyboard, mouse as well?  Factor that into your budget - I didn't find pcpartpicker all that useful for peripherals but YMMV.  Then go through it all again shaving some dollars or spending a bit more until you have a build you think is looking pretty good.  At that point, with specific parts chosen, you might get some concrete feedback on alternatives/bad choices - I know I did.

Anyway hope that helps even if just a little.

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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #2654 on: May 03, 2016, 09:26:14 pm »

Is it a common issue for computers to occasionally turn themselves back on a few seconds after turning off? Because that's been happening to me. For some reason, it never seems to happen twice in a row.
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