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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #2445 on: February 23, 2016, 05:29:55 pm »

The price of good quality SDHC cards has come down considerably, as flash memory technology has improved, and the memory has gone mainstream.

For instance, you can get a 64gb SDHC card for around 25 to 30$. That's around 50 cents per gigabyte-- pretty cheap.
Example offer in that range from Amazon


Likewise, I got a genuine 256gb SDXC card (any card larger than 64gb is an SDXC card!!) on Amazon for 80$ (on holiday discount) some time back. I have it chillin inside an old laptop as part of a poor man's SSD. (The laptop is IDE interface, and the slowness of the adapter does not matter. The interface is slow already anyway.) That comes out to someplace in the 30 cents per gigabyte range.

Getting legit media is not terribly hard these days.  The problem comes from people wanting 256gb media at the 25$ pricepoint, which wont happen (at least not any time soon). If you see cards listed in that capacity, in that price range, it is pretty much guaranteed to be a hacked card rip off, like you just experienced. 
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« Reply #2446 on: February 24, 2016, 09:53:29 am »

The price of good quality SDHC cards has come down considerably, as flash memory technology has improved, and the memory has gone mainstream.

For instance, you can get a 64gb SDHC card for around 25 to 30$. That's around 50 cents per gigabyte-- pretty cheap.
Example offer in that range from Amazon


Likewise, I got a genuine 256gb SDXC card (any card larger than 64gb is an SDXC card!!) on Amazon for 80$ (on holiday discount) some time back. I have it chillin inside an old laptop as part of a poor man's SSD. (The laptop is IDE interface, and the slowness of the adapter does not matter. The interface is slow already anyway.) That comes out to someplace in the 30 cents per gigabyte range.

Getting legit media is not terribly hard these days.  The problem comes from people wanting 256gb media at the 25$ pricepoint, which wont happen (at least not any time soon). If you see cards listed in that capacity, in that price range, it is pretty much guaranteed to be a hacked card rip off, like you just experienced.

I got a 16 GB flash card for, converted to US dollars, 12,50 USD (but the currency rate is quite bad right now so the local equivalent is more like 20 USD). So not only was I cheated, it wasn't even because I wanted the cheapest of the cheap stuff.

I did see 8 GB cards in an actual store, but they were relatively more expensive and I wnated at least 16 GB so I wouldnt have to switch cards all the time.


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« Reply #2447 on: February 24, 2016, 09:54:58 am »

I did see 8 GB cards in an actual store, but they were relatively more expensive
In future, let this set off alarm bells rather than feeling like it's a great deal.
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« Reply #2448 on: February 24, 2016, 09:58:11 am »

I did see 8 GB cards in an actual store, but they were relatively more expensive
In future, let this set off alarm bells rather than feeling like it's a great deal.
I was thinking that the larger SD cards might be relatively more cheap because they use lesss raw material for more storage.

Oh well I'll just have to record the stuff again. I find it very sad for the people involved. They took so much effort to show me their cultural knowledge only for it to get eaten by a hacked card. Oh well.
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« Reply #2449 on: February 24, 2016, 01:47:33 pm »

I was thinking that the larger SD cards might be relatively more cheap because they use lesss raw material for more storage.
Yeah that's not really the way computers work. In reality a 16GB card has almost as much circuitry in it as 2 8GB cards put together, they just make it all smaller, layer it deeper, and jam it in closer together. :P
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« Reply #2450 on: February 25, 2016, 11:38:07 am »

The price of good quality SDHC cards has come down considerably, as flash memory technology has improved, and the memory has gone mainstream.

For instance, you can get a 64gb SDHC card for around 25 to 30$. That's around 50 cents per gigabyte-- pretty cheap.
Example offer in that range from Amazon


Likewise, I got a genuine 256gb SDXC card (any card larger than 64gb is an SDXC card!!) on Amazon for 80$ (on holiday discount) some time back. I have it chillin inside an old laptop as part of a poor man's SSD. (The laptop is IDE interface, and the slowness of the adapter does not matter. The interface is slow already anyway.) That comes out to someplace in the 30 cents per gigabyte range.

Getting legit media is not terribly hard these days.  The problem comes from people wanting 256gb media at the 25$ pricepoint, which wont happen (at least not any time soon). If you see cards listed in that capacity, in that price range, it is pretty much guaranteed to be a hacked card rip off, like you just experienced.

I got a 16 GB flash card for, converted to US dollars, 12,50 USD (but the currency rate is quite bad right now so the local equivalent is more like 20 USD). So not only was I cheated, it wasn't even because I wanted the cheapest of the cheap stuff.

I did see 8 GB cards in an actual store, but they were relatively more expensive and I wnated at least 16 GB so I wouldnt have to switch cards all the time.

32GB flash cards, legit ones, can get down to the $12 US price point. Mostly you just have to buy from legit companies.
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« Reply #2451 on: February 25, 2016, 08:08:13 pm »

The price of good quality SDHC cards has come down considerably, as flash memory technology has improved, and the memory has gone mainstream.

For instance, you can get a 64gb SDHC card for around 25 to 30$. That's around 50 cents per gigabyte-- pretty cheap.
Example offer in that range from Amazon


Likewise, I got a genuine 256gb SDXC card (any card larger than 64gb is an SDXC card!!) on Amazon for 80$ (on holiday discount) some time back. I have it chillin inside an old laptop as part of a poor man's SSD. (The laptop is IDE interface, and the slowness of the adapter does not matter. The interface is slow already anyway.) That comes out to someplace in the 30 cents per gigabyte range.

Getting legit media is not terribly hard these days.  The problem comes from people wanting 256gb media at the 25$ pricepoint, which wont happen (at least not any time soon). If you see cards listed in that capacity, in that price range, it is pretty much guaranteed to be a hacked card rip off, like you just experienced.

I got a 16 GB flash card for, converted to US dollars, 12,50 USD (but the currency rate is quite bad right now so the local equivalent is more like 20 USD). So not only was I cheated, it wasn't even because I wanted the cheapest of the cheap stuff.

I did see 8 GB cards in an actual store, but they were relatively more expensive and I wnated at least 16 GB so I wouldnt have to switch cards all the time.

32GB flash cards, legit ones, can get down to the $12 US price point. Mostly you just have to buy from legit companies.
But where am I going to find a legit company in a poor region of a third world country that's the thing. I would never have had these problems back in my home country (Holland).
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« Reply #2452 on: February 26, 2016, 05:05:42 am »

Which country are you in, anyway?

My mom has fallen for that trick not once, but multiple times.
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« Reply #2453 on: February 26, 2016, 05:54:50 am »

The price of good quality SDHC cards has come down considerably, as flash memory technology has improved, and the memory has gone mainstream.

For instance, you can get a 64gb SDHC card for around 25 to 30$. That's around 50 cents per gigabyte-- pretty cheap.
Example offer in that range from Amazon


Likewise, I got a genuine 256gb SDXC card (any card larger than 64gb is an SDXC card!!) on Amazon for 80$ (on holiday discount) some time back. I have it chillin inside an old laptop as part of a poor man's SSD. (The laptop is IDE interface, and the slowness of the adapter does not matter. The interface is slow already anyway.) That comes out to someplace in the 30 cents per gigabyte range.

Getting legit media is not terribly hard these days.  The problem comes from people wanting 256gb media at the 25$ pricepoint, which wont happen (at least not any time soon). If you see cards listed in that capacity, in that price range, it is pretty much guaranteed to be a hacked card rip off, like you just experienced.

I got a 16 GB flash card for, converted to US dollars, 12,50 USD (but the currency rate is quite bad right now so the local equivalent is more like 20 USD). So not only was I cheated, it wasn't even because I wanted the cheapest of the cheap stuff.

I did see 8 GB cards in an actual store, but they were relatively more expensive and I wnated at least 16 GB so I wouldnt have to switch cards all the time.

32GB flash cards, legit ones, can get down to the $12 US price point. Mostly you just have to buy from legit companies.
But where am I going to find a legit company in a poor region of a third world country that's the thing. I would never have had these problems back in my home country (Holland).

Ask a family member in Holland to buy one, put it in a small shipping box, and mail it to you. Then you either wire them the money, or send a money order.
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« Reply #2454 on: February 26, 2016, 06:21:48 pm »

Ok i have another problem.
This one is not really all that serious but hey it's worth asking right?

So my internet is... bizarre.
It works normally and it's even quite fast at 1400 Kb/s
HOWEVER when i have a lot of outgoing traffic (if i start uploading a youtube video for example) it simply goes bananas. To the point that windows actually assumes i lost connection (while the video still uploads normally).

it's not a big issue but it prevents me from using the internet at all while i upload a video.
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« Reply #2455 on: February 26, 2016, 06:23:14 pm »

Wired or wireless connection?
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« Reply #2456 on: February 26, 2016, 06:35:51 pm »

Wired. Altho the router supports wifi and overusing the internet via wifi also disconnects any devices connected to it via wifi.
Not sure if i can upload a large file via my smartphone tho.
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« Reply #2457 on: February 26, 2016, 07:01:07 pm »

^Wow, that's bizarre and I have never seen that happen. Does it also happen when uploading torrents?
As for shipping SD cards here, I will need them within about a week and shipping to here takes at least a month, and there are odds that it gets stolen (yup, your mail can get stolen here or never ever arrive).

Someone here bought me an 8GB SD card, I will see if it works. The brand is 'Multilaser' a brand I have never heard of, and the price is approximately $5. We'll see.
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« Reply #2458 on: February 26, 2016, 07:32:07 pm »

Nope. At least not with my small time torrenting.
So far it's only when i upload something large like a video to youtube. I'll check if sending someone a large file via skype FTP will do that as well.

EDIT: I'm sending a 40 Mb file to a friend right now and the internet seems to be in working order. So far it seems only uploading files to youtube causes that.
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« Reply #2459 on: February 26, 2016, 08:48:38 pm »

Remember: when you download packets, your computer sends acknowledgement (ACK) packets to the sender, letting the sender know that the packets it sent you are fine. (or, if they arent fine, it sends a resend packet telling it to send the data again. This is what TCP does. Google it. :) )

If you saturate your upload bandwidth, it then interferes with downloads, because your ACKs dont make it out.  This was a much bigger problem in the 90s in the dialup days, but it still exists today. You need to throttle your upload connection to your client so that approx 10% of the upload bandwidth is free for TCP to send ACKs and other goodies over in a timely manner.

If you do that, your problem will go away.
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