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Re: The Generic Computer Advice Thread
« Reply #1755 on: May 21, 2015, 07:44:08 pm »

I dont mean to sound mean.. but I gave up years ago getting windows machines to do networking correctly.

I can only take the "wear mittens after slathering on novacaine topical" nature of windows' configuration for advanced networking for so long.  Give me linux and a proper config file any day. 

Windows is just a poor choice to do anything related to bridging with. 
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« Reply #1756 on: May 21, 2015, 08:32:41 pm »

I dont mean to sound mean.. but I gave up years ago getting windows machines to do networking correctly.

I can only take the "wear mittens after slathering on novacaine topical" nature of windows' configuration for advanced networking for so long.  Give me linux and a proper config file any day. 

Windows is just a poor choice to do anything related to bridging with.

If I could into Linux, I would.

But so far, I can't into Linux very far. Most I've done with it is test (and nuke) hard drives with a Fedora stick.
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« Reply #1757 on: May 21, 2015, 10:39:05 pm »

The CLOSEST I could get windows to do correctly was to act as an ACTUAL router with a "Multi home configuration", using a combination of a registry setting (DEEPLY HIDDEN, requires adding the key to make the feature turn on, which is disabled by default!) and a startup batch script to manually configure all the routes in the new routing table.

That actually worked like a charm, but was a SUPER pain in the *$$ to set up. Compared to linux, where setting up a bridge is as easy as defining an interface and adding members to it in /etc/network, it was an elaborate kludge. 
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« Reply #1758 on: May 22, 2015, 01:10:45 am »

In Windows it's as easy as selecting both interfaces and pressing "bridge". It's just inexplicably not working. Linux is also great at " inexplicably not working" so leave off the fanboyism.

PyroDesu: Have you tried setting the static IP/gateway settings on the bridge? The problem seems to be that it's preferring the autoconfig IP from the lan side instead of the dhcp IP from the WiFi. Googling suggests disabling autoconfig IPs on the lan interface may also help.
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« Reply #1759 on: May 22, 2015, 08:59:02 am »

In Windows it's as easy as selecting both interfaces and pressing "bridge". It's just inexplicably not working. Linux is also great at " inexplicably not working" so leave off the fanboyism.

PyroDesu: Have you tried setting the static IP/gateway settings on the bridge? The problem seems to be that it's preferring the autoconfig IP from the lan side instead of the dhcp IP from the WiFi. Googling suggests disabling autoconfig IPs on the lan interface may also help.

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« Reply #1760 on: May 22, 2015, 10:10:07 am »

Which PC gives that error?
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« Reply #1761 on: May 22, 2015, 10:13:45 am »

Also, lets try something arcane:
In the Network connections window, where you bridge the connections, but with the bridge not created
Press "alt"
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Change the order of connections so your wifi network is first
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« Reply #1762 on: May 22, 2015, 10:28:21 am »

Which PC gives that error?

Both. They mirror errors on either side of the connection.

Also, lets try something arcane:
In the Network connections window, where you bridge the connections, but with the bridge not created
Press "alt"
Advanced
Advanced Settings
Change the order of connections so your wifi network is first

Nothing.
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« Reply #1763 on: May 22, 2015, 10:30:43 am »

Then off to google my friend :)

I have no further ideas
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« Reply #1764 on: May 22, 2015, 11:32:31 am »

Then off to google my friend :)

I have no further ideas

Yeah, Google was my first choice, but there doesn't seem to be much on bridging. The forums were my last resort.
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« Reply #1765 on: May 22, 2015, 01:06:14 pm »

Does it NEED to be a bridged connection?

What exactly do you want the connection to do?
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« Reply #1766 on: May 22, 2015, 02:17:42 pm »

Does it NEED to be a bridged connection?

What exactly do you want the connection to do?

Pass internet through my laptop to my desktop. Former can pick up WiFi, latter cannot, and as I'm only here temporarily, I'm not buying a WiFi card. And there's stuff on the Desktop that doesn't work without internet that I'd like to use (though as I'm going to be here less than 24 more hours, it has become a moot point).

And yeah, it has to be bridged. I tried ICS the first time I was in this situation (same place) and it never worked. Bridging seems to be the only other option.
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« Reply #1767 on: May 22, 2015, 03:28:11 pm »

I was wondering if routing would be an option. It is different from bridging.
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« Reply #1768 on: May 24, 2015, 02:39:52 am »

Do you have an android phone? That can also bridge. Use usb tethering while connected to wifi.
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« Reply #1769 on: May 28, 2015, 07:53:49 am »

alright

so my fujitsu lifebook, model ah530, needs new graphics drivers

the reasons for this is that the current ones are, according to programs which wreck themselves (starmade, notably! wanna play that yo) buggy

however the intel update utility does not provide anything driver-like, the generic drivers downloaded from their site (i've tried hd graphics both 4 and 5 series) refuse to install and the fujitsu website still boasts the same driver it released whilst tossing the product onto the markets - which is also the same driver i have on the cd that came with the laptop

where is this new driver to be sought, if there is any even; the os on which i'd like to use said driver is win7 if it matters

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