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[Bauglir]

Question! Are you arguing that there are, in principle, some cases in which the death penalty would be appropriate, or are you arguing that it is acceptable to institute it as a common practice in the real world? These are very different arguments; the only connection is that the first is a prerequisite for the second. I can and do agree with the first; I disagree extremely with the second.

[Phmcw]

ROFL, that's some serious Christian charity and compassion that you have there.
And I see you're so humble in your formulation. Not an hint of doubt on your right to judge others.

Is a sex offender forgivable? A mass murderer? Is there any act of depravity that's unforgivable?

Yes he is. Forgivable, and guess what, some victims forgave. As for depravity, if that in the sexual sense (as with sleeping with a lot of consenting people in ways not approved by the scriptures) then there is nothing to forgave, because there are no grief to have.

So self righteous... Say me kind sir, is your count of sin negative that you throw so many stones so eagerly yet call yourself a Christian? Or are you just an hypocrite?

[Leafsnail]

If they truly regret their actions, then they can pray for forgiveness.

They can.  And... uh, what exactly will that achieve?  What about all those innocent people you're ok with executing to save time and money?

[DJ]

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

What if it's not a just law? Is Rosa Parks worthless?

[fqllve]

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

What if it's not a just law? Is Rosa Parks worthless?

I'm hoping that was just a huge exaggeration. It's pretty unlikely for any given person to have never broken a law in their life. There are a lot of laws. Some are pretty obscure.

[ECrownofFire]

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

What if it's not a just law? Is Rosa Parks worthless?

I'm hoping that was just a huge exaggeration. It's pretty unlikely for any given person to have never broken a law in their life. There are a lot of laws. Some are pretty obscure.

Yeah, find me one person that hasn't jaywalked

[Max White]

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

Oh, and that is a strike for a use of the appeal to law fallacy! Try harder to devalue human life next time.

[ggamer]

Barney: I love you, you love me, we're a happy family...
Warden: It's time.
Prisoner: Thank God.
Warden: Time for you to watch the Teletubbies!!!
Prisoner: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*another 24 hours later*
Guard: "He's still alive."
Warden:"I'll call in Plan B."

Bible black is plan B.

even the most horrid of criminals are dead afterwards.

Men who survive that are a threat to the earth, nay, the entire dimension.

[Luke_Prowler]

I'd actually like to ask something: When people are throwing around the word "Murderer", are they describing those who committed murder in the First Degree, or anyone who's killed anyone, ever, including by accident?

[Taricus]

Manslaughter is the charge for for killing someone without intent, murder being with intent.

[Dr.Feelgood]

Question! Are you arguing that there are, in principle, some cases in which the death penalty would be appropriate, or are you arguing that it is acceptable to institute it as a common practice in the real world? These are very different arguments; the only connection is that the first is a prerequisite for the second. I can and do agree with the first; I disagree extremely with the second.

I want America to utilize capital punishment with much greater frequency. There are several ways that capital punishment can be improved. Once we reduce the lengthy appeals process and expand the death penalty to cover other heinous acts, then the costs and size of our prisons will decrease dramatically.

If they truly regret their actions, then they can pray for forgiveness.

They can.  And... uh, what exactly will that achieve?  What about all those innocent people you're ok with executing to save time and money?

Innocents who are unduly punished are tragic, but unavoidable. It is a sacrifice we must make for the greater good. I prefer a society that seeks justice, rather than a society that houses a monster out of some misplaced sense of compassion.

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

What if it's not a just law? Is Rosa Parks worthless?

I'm hoping that was just a huge exaggeration. It's pretty unlikely for any given person to have never broken a law in their life. There are a lot of laws. Some are pretty obscure.

I was thinking of those who committed felonies, not pretty vandals and jaywalkers.

[Bauglir]

I want America to utilize capital punishment with much greater frequency. There are several ways that capital punishment can be improved. Once we reduce the lengthy appeals process and expand the death penalty to cover other heinous acts, then the costs and size of our prisons will decrease dramatically.

Okay. Well, I will be honest; I do not understand why this is something you want. But I'd like to understand, even if I don't think I will agree. With that in mind, I hope that the questions I ask don't come across as, "Hah, I bet you didn't consider that one! See, you must be wrong!" I may disagree with something you say, but I'll try to be clear when I'm raising an objection instead of asking for more information.

So, the first question: what is it that makes human life valuable to you? Put another way, what is it that a murderer (for the sake of argument) loses that makes death an acceptable option? It's (I think) obvious that there are crimes for which death is not an acceptable punishment, even if the person in question has, before the crime, done nothing particularly good or bad for the world. "Execution is not acceptable" seems to be the default state for people, so there has to be something that changes. For you, what is that?

[sonerohi]

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

What if it's not a just law? Is Rosa Parks worthless?

I've always wanted to see a justice system that incorporates a bit of this. The courts don't actually hand out any punishment, they just decide whether or not you are guilty, and from then on, you aren't protected by the law that you broke. If you sexually harass someone and are convicted of it, you have no recourse against people who sexually harass you. It'd be entirely unworkable, but it is a curious idea I like to ponder.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

What if it's not a just law? Is Rosa Parks worthless?

I've always wanted to see a justice system that incorporates a bit of this. The courts don't actually hand out any punishment, they just decide whether or not you are guilty, and from then on, you aren't protected by the law that you broke. If you sexually harass someone and are convicted of it, you have no recourse against people who sexually harass you. It'd be entirely unworkable, but it is a curious idea I like to ponder.

So basically, you want us to return to the day of outlaws?

[sonerohi]

A person is only as good as their actions. And if they violate the law, then they're worthless.

What if it's not a just law? Is Rosa Parks worthless?

I've always wanted to see a justice system that incorporates a bit of this. The courts don't actually hand out any punishment, they just decide whether or not you are guilty, and from then on, you aren't protected by the law that you broke. If you sexually harass someone and are convicted of it, you have no recourse against people who sexually harass you. It'd be entirely unworkable, but it is a curious idea I like to ponder.

So basically, you want us to return to the day of outlaws?

I don't particular want to live in that system or subject it on others, but if somewhere implemented it I'd love to study it.