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[Aklyon]

Those second wave feminists seem to not get the point of us not surviving without both genders, but thats not really the point here.

I vote for a Party Party as well, we'd at least get all of the college party people involved.

[Phmcw]

I love how the GOP is battling... to keep Bush's tax cuts for the rich.
When you're in dire need of money.
The problem is not the base, it's the top. Once you've weeded the traitors out, it'll be better.

[nenjin]

Well the base elects the top. Which is funny because the base probably enjoys fewer of the benefits Republicans fight to get than anyone else. The Republican base has this weird self-sacrificing mentality, where they may work 40 hours a week and be middle class, but they'll fight and vote to the death for someone far richer than them to pay fewer taxes.

[Nadaka]

If you go back far enough, it is the democratic party that was the advocate of the rural poor (the white ones anyway), and that was why it historically lead the more northern industrialist republican party in the south. Though since then both parties have changed dramatically.

[Vector]

Frankly, I can respect the hell out of the Republican base for wanting "equal" rights even if it fucks them over.

All the same, I don't think that it's very good for anyone when it's pursued to this degree.  I just want the loopholes closed at this point and an end to backroom dealing.  Theoretically, the Republican base isn't exactly fond of cheating, either.

[Aqizzar]

Well the base elects the top. Which is funny because the base probably enjoys fewer of the benefits Republicans fight to get than anyone else. The Republican base has this weird self-sacrificing mentality, where they may work 40 hours a week and be middle class, but they'll fight and vote to the death for someone far richer than them to pay fewer taxes.

Because someday, somehow, they'll be billionaires too.  So you gotta make taxes on billionaires low now, so there's an incentive for people to work hard to get there.  Because, seriously, who wants to work hard enough at Kinkos to be a billionaire when you'll just have to pay a whopping 35% (read: 18%) taxes when you get there?

And, y'know, the Democrats are coming for your guns/Bible/SUVs/fetuses/nukes/"freedoms".  Sure, you'll never seen any of those tax incentives enacted by the guys you voted for, but at least you'll still have your soul.  Besides, losing your career at 53 because it's gone to Myanmar or because you've gotten non-litigatable cancer from the tap water won't matter if there's no Medicare or Social Security waiting for you anyway.

[Nadaka]

Well the base elects the top. Which is funny because the base probably enjoys fewer of the benefits Republicans fight to get than anyone else. The Republican base has this weird self-sacrificing mentality, where they may work 40 hours a week and be middle class, but they'll fight and vote to the death for someone far richer than them to pay fewer taxes.

They are good serfs who know their place and appreciate the the reduced burden of decision making that their position entails. Those poor billionaires burdened with the decision of how they can bleed a few more coins from their propertyemployees.

Ok... That may have been my snarky pessimism speaking.

[Lysabild]

Because, seriously, who wants to work hard enough at Kinkos to be a billionaire when you'll just have to pay a whopping 35% (read: 18%) taxes when you get there?

Is 35% in tax supposed to be much? >_> I think minimum tax here is 37% <_<

[ed boy]

Over here, a billionaire would be paying 50% tax.

[Aqizzar]

Because, seriously, who wants to work hard enough at Kinkos to be a billionaire when you'll just have to pay a whopping 35% (read: 18%) taxes when you get there?

Is 35% in tax supposed to be much? >_> I think minimum tax here is 37% <_<

Welcome to America.  Everyone thinks everyone is taxed way too much, when most people don't even know what their own taxes are, and some people outright refuse to believe the numbers on their paycheck, as the bracketed income tax is actually a conspiracy by the IRS.  Trying to convince some people that raising taxes on the top marginal rate turns into a comedy of errors, since a surprising large number of people can't believe that it's only as high as 35%, and effectively averages around 18% from the way the code works, when they know it has to be higher than that.  Because why else would so many people be unemployed if it were not because the job creators are taxed too much?

[Vector]

Because the job creators are aaaaasssssssshoolllllles.

I'm sure not all of them are, really.  But there's been a lot of bad business practices going on over the past ten years.

[Duke 2.0]

 I would just like to note that while I do enjoy the lofty taxes we enjoy here in the States I would like any future reform to them to adopt the European system of taxes being included with the price of an item. If something costs a Euro it does not cost you a Euro and like five cents or something. Bundle that stuff up. Increase taxes another 10% I dont care, just make this thing easier.

[Vector]

That's a good point.  I really liked going to Russia and having things actually cost what they said they cost.  Made paying in cash so much easier.

[Aqizzar]

I would just like to note that while I do enjoy the lofty taxes we enjoy here in the States I would like any future reform to them to adopt the European system of taxes being included with the price of an item. If something costs a Euro it does not cost you a Euro and like five cents or something. Bundle that stuff up. Increase taxes another 10% I dont care, just make this thing easier.

Every once in a blue moon, I'll go to a store that actually prices and labels things that way.  Not "99 cents plus 8.5% sales tax", but just "One Dollar" square.  Stadiums do it that way, because the last thing they need is people holding up the line fumbling around with change, so they keep the complication on their end.  Why that idea is such a mystery to every other realm of business baffles me.

[Heron TSG]

Huh. All the local stores around here list the total price of an item, counting taxes. You have to ask specifically if you want to know the price without taxes added.

((Yay sales tax!))