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Author Topic: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler) + Slade testing  (Read 7595 times)

OMGTANGERINES

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Re: ...I think I spawned in hell
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2011, 12:48:23 pm »

Obligatory SPOILER YOUR TITLE Comment.
Agreed, was just about to post this.
To mod slade, go into the DF folder, into the raw folder, into the objects folder, and open up inorganic_stone_mineral.txt
the entry is thus:

[INORGANIC:SLADE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:slade][DISPLAY_COLOR:0:0:1][TILE:176]
[ITEM_SYMBOL:'*']
[DEEP_SURFACE]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:0:0:1]
[SOLID_DENSITY:200000]
[IMPACT_YIELD:4000000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:5000000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:4000000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:5000000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
[TENSILE_YIELD:4000000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:5000000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
[TORSION_YIELD:4000000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:5000000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
[SHEAR_YIELD:4000000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:5000000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
[BENDING_YIELD:4000000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:5000000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:100]
[MAX_EDGE:1000] no swords until you can pick mats
[ITEMS_HARD]
[IS_STONE]
[UNDIGGABLE]

Remove [UNDIGGABLE] to make it diggable; change [SOLID_DENSITY:#] to make it lighter (but less devastating).
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2011, 01:19:35 pm »

I made Slade diggable.
I made Slade stone drop Slade ore when dug out.
I made Slade ore smeltable into Slade bars.
I made Dwarves able to smelt Slade.
I made Slade bars craftable into weapons and armour.
And I kept Slade at the same density it had earlier. I want to see what a Slade Balistae Bolt does to a Goblin.
Now, getting Slade is going to be a problem. I deleted that world, because I had edited the entities raws, and created a new one. I'll have to get into hell to get Slade, and that sucks. So, I made Humans and Goblins able to smelt Slade. I'm hopping a Human caravan/goblin raiding party will randomly show up with Slade weapons I can smelt down into whatever I want.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 01:23:12 pm »

And you've also made it entirely possible to fulfill the occasional mandate for slade items by a noble!

Granted, it's inconvenient as hell (pun very intended), but inconvenience is no excuse for crime!
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2011, 01:24:17 pm »

The only nobes I ever use are Cheif Medical Dwarf and Militia Commander/Captain.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2011, 01:25:53 pm »

Also, Adamantine has a value multiplier of 300. Would a value multiplier of 200 be reasonable for Slade? Wait, no, dont want that. Value multiplier of .1, buying it from humans on the cheap.
Answered my own question.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 01:27:47 pm »

The only nobes I ever use are Cheif Medical Dwarf and Militia Commander/Captain.

You'll get a mayor whether you want to or not. It just happens. Also, no need to be afraid of the appointed nobles; they don't issue demands and are actually quite useful. Bookkeepers in particular are essential for management of your resources.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2011, 01:29:19 pm »

I never found Bookkeepers/managers to be helpful. I'd rather have them hauling stuff. The micromanaging in this game isn't as bad as people seem to think it is.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2011, 01:30:35 pm »

My plan is to get several dwarves up to Legendary Axemen, clad them in all Slade armour, Slade Halberds, and have a squad of Slade-bolted marksdwarves backing them up, open hell, and see how many demons I kill.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2011, 01:30:52 pm »

If you haven't found bookkeepers useful, you've probably forgotten to change their settings to max accuracy so you can tabulate every single pebble in the fortress, order all of a specific type of item for dumping, or take note of your crops down to the last seed.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2011, 01:32:40 pm »

I don't know how to set up bookkeepers at all. And I don't really need an accurate head count of food. As long as it's at least 200 on my screen, it's no issue to me.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2011, 01:43:13 pm »

If you're going to outfit your dwarves in slade armor, make sure to train up their armor user skill. Otherwise, they'll move REALLY slow. That's a lot of weight.

And make at least one slade hammer. See how fast it kills things. Should be amazing.
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Re: ...I think I spawned in hell
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2011, 01:45:43 pm »

Obligatory SPOILER YOUR TITLE Comment.
I didn't know that slade is located at hell but I do know. Adding a spoiler has just spoiled it :D
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2011, 02:14:58 pm »

I don't know how to set up bookkeepers at all. And I don't really need an accurate head count of food. As long as it's at least 200 on my screen, it's no issue to me.

Go to nobles screen, select a bookkeeper, highlight bookkeeper, press "s", set to max accuracy. Make sure you give him an office.
And I'd do anything for more nobles (like a damn baron, they never want to come); they make the game interesting.
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2011, 02:23:03 pm »

I don't know how to set up bookkeepers at all. And I don't really need an accurate head count of food.
A good bookkeeper allows you to zoom to any one item on your map. There are a lot of things that having a bookkeeper allows, as ImBocaire points out.

To set up a bookkeeper you need a chair / throne and a dwarf assigned the Bookkeeper position. To do this, you go into the (n)obles screen, pick out a dwarf you can afford to have out of commission for a short while, and give them the job. Use the (s)ettings option on the nobles screen to switch accuracy to high. Build the chair, set it as a throne room / study, and assign it to the bookkeeper. The dwarf will do nothing else until the records are updated. Once you get enough stuff that high accuracy isn't enough, switch over to 'all records accurate'. Once it's up to full accuracy, your bookkeeper will maintain stock control with only the power of their mind.

(on preview -- ...ehh. Better safe than sorry, and I typed it all up already.)
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Re: ...I think I spawned somewhere odd (spoiler)
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2011, 02:47:09 pm »

I don't know how to set up bookkeepers at all. And I don't really need an accurate head count of food. As long as it's at least 200 on my screen, it's no issue to me.

Go to nobles screen, select a bookkeeper, highlight bookkeeper, press "s", set to max accuracy. Make sure you give him an office.
And I'd do anything for more nobles (like a damn baron, they never want to come); they make the game interesting.
the baron does not immigrate in, he is appointed by the liaison.
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