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[ECrownofFire]

Devil kills are not unblockable. They give you one unblockable kill if you already have a kill, otherwise you get a regular kill.

Anyway, Meph, is it possible to vote-shorten the day? We don't really need to discuss every damn thing in the world today.

[Solifuge]

Wow... if there is one thing we need today, Crown, it's discussion. Such as one regarding when and where you learned all the ins and outs of the Devil's granted kills? How long did you discuss its merits in Scum Chat, before he gave it to you?

Leafsnail, BDTheMag, and ECrownOfFire. Scum lineup of the year, right in front of our faces.

Anyway, how's that Toaster-Vote sitting with you right now, Townies? Go ahead and kill off the Guard, who can both block Scum Conversions and lock up the Lord... go ahead and take care of that nuisance for them, and see where it gets you.

[ECrownofFire]

The devil kill thing is stated when you are granted the choice.

[Mephansteras]

Anyway, Meph, is it possible to vote-shorten the day? We don't really need to discuss every damn thing in the world today.

Yes, people can vote to Shorten a day the same way they can shorten to extend it. However, it takes a majority of players voting for a shortening in order for it to actually occur.

[IronyOwl]

Wait hold on, im being stupid. Im too damned tired right now, unvote.

When you're less tired, you should probably get in here and say or do something, so I'm less tempted to dispose of you for being a shameless lurker.

Anyway, Meph, is it possible to vote-shorten the day? We don't really need to discuss every damn thing in the world today.

How's it feel being alive because we ran out of nooses?

Wow... if there is one thing we need today, Crown, it's discussion.

And yet, you're ignoring me. Even the very relevant bits, like how it's fucking retarded to call a Devil a survivor.

Anyway, how's that Toaster-Vote sitting with you right now, Townies? Go ahead and kill off the Guard, who can both block Scum Conversions and lock up the Lord... go ahead and take care of that nuisance for them, and see where it gets you.

Pondering switching it to Bd, but not very seriously. Otherwise pretty good.

How's that You'll Be Sorry speech and vote on an obvious Devil sitting with you?

[ECrownofFire]

Anyway, Meph, is it possible to vote-shorten the day? We don't really need to discuss every damn thing in the world today.

How's it feel being alive because we ran out of nooses?

Pretty good. Alive is alive, after all.

[Mysteriousbluepuppet]

Wow Ecrown, you are going too fast checking all the scum checklist. Shorten is NOT what we need, we dont have a consensus, thus shortening is damned scummy. Not the worst this goes to...

Solifuge, the kill me and you lose a good role is classic scum.
I'm important guy, i'll help you win, bleah
 You seem damned concentrsated on the devil, but i really think hes the least of our problems. I am convienced Leaf is what he say, since the flavor he paraphrased is perfectly consistent with what i got. Thus all that Leaf is really the vamp lord is bullshit and jsut good to lose time on real hunt. So yeah, being incoherent, self-refuting and using the old dont kill me i'm helpfull don't fly with me

[Toaster]

Max:

Well, it dawned on me yesterday that you could be scum when Irony bought it up, but only recently have you taken over the race from Leafsnail.
Especially hearing how lame your reasoning for not protecting me was. I mean if you had something good, then it would still be Leafsnail, but just "*Shrug* I dunno! Maybe I shoulda protected the useful one!" doesn't work for me.

That's crap.  If you thought it was a scummy move, you should have said so.  You're a bandwagoning bastard.


Irony:  I'll grant that I missed your "there's no guard" implication, and that there's no great way to verify.  Unless you want me to block someone of your choice tonight?


MBP:  If you're so concerned about finding the vamp lord, why are you voting the one person it cannot be?

[Toaster]

Oh yeah- if you're hell-bent on lynching me, you should probably figure out what to do with the Devil deal in the night when I hang and Guard.  It should probably involve shooting Azure, since he's the best bet for vamp lord that isn't already bedeviled.

[Mysteriousbluepuppet]

Toasty, havent talked about the Vampire lord, but about scum. Right now Soli sounds Scum as all hell, and he could very well have been converted.

[Toaster]

Problem.

Vampires convert, not kill, remember?  If you lynch one cultist, the next day another pops up in his place, so all you get for your trouble is one less townie.

[Mephansteras]

The Scribe's Tally Sheet
Azure Sepulchre: Toaster
Leafsnail: Solifuge
Solifuge: Mysteriousbluepuppet
Toaster: ECrownOfFire, Max White, IronyOwl


Day ends ~5pm Pacific Friday

[Leafsnail]

My statement is that Leafsnail is falseclaiming! Not that he's a Devil/Vampire Lord hybrid, who is actually a Survivor despite MaxWhite's scan turning up Changer. This is neither a tricky concept to grasp, nor a far leap of logic. It's an assumption supported by what evidence we have so far.

This very cleverly dodges the point that CoF was making.

Your argument is that I must be the vampire lord because the Devil would obviously be a survivor rather than a changer.

CoF pointed out that the Devil loses if he survives.

You ignored this question and restated your idiotic theory (again: devils have no blood).

We know for a fact that SOMEONE among us is a Vampire Lord falseclaiming as something else. Supernatural 3 proved that not even 3rd parties with special win-conditions are immune to being inducted into the Cult... their goals change so that they win with the Scum Team. If Leafsnail targeted the Devil, there's nothing preventing him from being able to nab him, and then falseclaim as him.

Except for devils having no blood.

That's about as relevant as whether or not CrownOfFire is scum (still pretty well certain that he is). There are enough loose ends with regard to claims players have made, and who is and is not Scum by now. My first thoughts were that it was MBP, and Leaf and his flavor-claim that the Devil Deal was blocked by his being an Angel was a gambit between them... but that requires that Max was converted as well (MBP showed to Max's Fortune-Telling as a Guardian). It requires more assumptions, which makes it a bit less likely.

In addition, you should keep in mind that it was you who suggested I make the deal with MBP (and before then noone was considering it).  If it was a gambit, then it would require your cooperation (or me magically predicting your actions).

[Toaster]

Actually, per Super 1 flavor, Devils do have blood.  (Check my N1 result.)

[Leafsnail]

I guess so, but a vampire devil's still stupid and devils fundamentally aren't survivors.