If he is the Vampire Lord and completely unable to play, then that's still not a reason not to lynch him, because the scumteam can just pick his action for him. That's fairly common practice for mods to do, and I'm pretty sure Meph has done it a few times as well, even though I can't think of any specific examples right now.
If you want some support for this, there's precedent even in a Meph game.
In Paranormal 14, I was scum and had to have ToonyMan and forsaken1111 pick my action because I was gone for some reason. Here's the PM Meph sent us because he was getting impatient.
Well it looks like I'll be investigating JanusTwoFace tonight. I believe Jim is doing our kill, but there was debate on who to kill and the others haven't replied in dopp chat yet.
You have until 5pm Pacific today to get your decisions in. If necessary, one of you can simply issue orders for the group.
And I found another example in Supernatural 1, so it's not like this was a one-off thing:
I will give Joker until 2pm Pacific today, otherwise he is doing nothing. Alternatively, Red can make a decision for him (since he's the Leader)
So, again, how is Azure Sepulchre lurking not a reason to think he's the VL? Nobody's answering my questions, even though they're good and cut through the heart of your terrible arguments.
Jim, I like how you handily ignore all the other reasons not to kill Azure. Also, with regard to bdthemag, as Crown has so kindly illustrated, the instinct for an unskilled scum player would be to take the Kill. After all, what is your goal but to outnumber Town as quick as you can... and what better way to do it?
You're assuming that an unskilled scum player is going to make good decisions, which is never an assumption you can make.
I'm not going to argue that taking a redirect over the kill was dumb, but that's still not a reason to assume he couldn't be the VL.
Have you ever played a game of mafia before? It's like I'm dealing with a beginner here. I mean, really, how much baseless supposition do you have to pull out of your ass to justify your arguments?
As for the other reasons you raised for why we shouldn't be lynching Azure Sepulchre:
- Obvscum CrownOfFire is being directed to make a big fuss out of NOT voting for AzureSepulcher, so it looks like poorly playing Scum are trying to keep him from being killed, and thus make Azure look like Scum.
- The bulk of the Scum seem to agree with making Azure die, which means he's DEFINITELY NOT the Lord. We need to Lynch the lord, not rely on a Devil's Deal to kill him; too much can go wrong with this plan and leave the Lord alive... or worse.
These are both improvable WIFOM, which is why I ignored them. There's no way to challenge them, besides to point out that they're improvable WIFOM.
Bdthemag: No prerequisits. Unlikely, since took Devils Deal, and for Redirect instead of Kill (scum discuss these things).
Ha ha, yeah right.
Let's assume that Bdthemag is the VL. On Night 1, it would have been just him and Dariush.
And you're going to tell me that they'd make a good decision.
To put what I'm saying simply, what we need to do right now is not gamble on a Devil's Deal to win, nor still be lynching lurkers... your obsession with them borders on the fetishistic, Jim. What we need to do now is some good old fashioned Scumhunting. For now, Extend. Here's the remainder of the facts I've gathered, to accompany my last post.
hurp derp Sure Jim Groovester only likes lynching lurkers.
Poor innocent lurkers
like you!!! You still won't say I wasn't wrong, which I guess means I wasn't.
Bitch about me ignoring your reasons, why don't you, when every single fucking post you make completely ignores everything I've said.
VL picks
VL picks
You know, these are great lists. Edge cases justified by WIFOM are exactly the sort of thing we need to move forward in the game.
Or we could keep it simple instead of overthink everything like a bunch of dumbshits who think they're smart.
Let's just lynch Azure Sepulchre. Ignoring him because he's a lurker is dumb if he has a scum team who can send in his actions. (Which there is precedent for in a Meph game, which bears repeating because I don't trust that you'll remember the supporting evidence for one of the main points of this post.)