Jim, I like how you handily ignore all the other reasons not to kill Azure. Also, with regard to bdthemag, as Crown has so kindly illustrated, the instinct for an unskilled scum player would be to take the Kill. After all, what is your goal but to outnumber Town as quick as you can... and what better way to do it?
To put what I'm saying simply, what we need to do right now is not gamble on a Devil's Deal to win, nor
still be lynching lurkers... your obsession with them borders on the fetishistic, Jim. What we need to do now is some good old fashioned Scumhunting. For now,
Extend. Here's the remainder of the facts I've gathered, to accompany
my last post.
Existing Roles, with their claimed players and actions:ROLE PLAYER N1 N2 N3
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Devil - Leafsnail Offer Bd, Takes Redirect Offer Josh, Declined Offer Crown, Takes Kill
Dreamwalker - Jim Groovester No Vision No Vision Sees Toaster lock him up
Fortune-Teller - Max White Check Nuke9.13, Survivor Check LNCP, Protector Check Leaf, Changer
Guard - Toaster Lock up Dariush Lock up Solifuge Lock up Jim
Knight - Bdthemag None None None
Priest (Spent) - JoshuaFH Resurrect Solifuge None None
Priest (Unspent) - Solifuge Resurrected None None
Warlock - CrownOfFire (Confirmed) Spoke with Solifuge None Killed Nuke
Witch (w/ Nuke) - IronyOwl None None None
Guardian Angel - Myst.BluePuppet Protect Irony from Scans Protect Irony from NKs None
UNKNOWN - AzureSepulcher UNKNOWN UNKNOWN UNKNOWN
Dead Players:
* Dariush - Vampire Slave
* NUKE9.13 - Vampire Witch
* Jokerman-EXE - Townsperson
Factions:
(6-7) Town
(2-3) Cultists
(1) Devil
(1) Guardian AngelPossibilities for Vampire Lords, with analysis:Likely:IronyOwl: If converted Vector/Nuke and learned she had no Covenbuddy, OR converted said Covenbuddy and falseclaiming.
Jim Groovester: If converted a Dreamwalker at some point. Only 1 living Slave if Lord (was blocked).
Max White: If converted a Fortune-Teller, and falseclaimed as them.
MBP: If converted a Guardian Angel OR concocted a detailed falseclaim.
Possible:AzureSepulcher: Heavy lurking, no claim.
JoshuaFH: If converted a priest on N1, and falseclaimed as them.
Toaster: If converted a Guard N1, AND later converted Jim (he claimed to see Toaster locking him up).
Unlikely:Bdthemag: No prerequisits. Unlikely, since took Devils Deal, and for Redirect instead of Kill (scum discuss these things).
Leafsnail: If somehow converted Devil to Cult, falseclaimed, and deemed it prudent to kill 2+ teammates with win condition.
Impossible:CrownOfFire: Spoke directly by PM to dead on N1.
Solifuge: Flipped priest D1.
Anyway, the only way I can be the Lord is if MBP is a converted doc, or if Meph was a bastard this game and gave a Vampire Lord his own guardian angel for some reason. That seems pretty unlikely either way.
Like I said above, it's entirely possible that you, and MBP, could be on a scumteam together, since neither of your claims are verifiable. Say you're a Lord, and you snagged Vector/Nuke early on. You'd know whether she had a Covenbuddy (if that's even guaranteed) and if so could have converted them and used Witch as your falseclaim. Also, though Jim
does know a lot about the Dreamwalker role, he could just as easily be either a Lord fakeclaiming a scum-mate's role to hide himself, or is a Cult Dreamwalker. Neither of you are clean, so don't act as though this is the case.
MysteriousBluePuppet, can you still give IronyOwl the "needs 1 more vote to lynch" power during day? If so, we can verify your claim, make the Devil Deal work, and help you meet your win condition.