Solifuge, the kill me and you lose a good role is classic scum.
I'm important guy, i'll help you win, bleah
My problem with you and BDTheMag voting to lynch me was NEVER about my role. As I've said, I'm probably Impious, and worthless to town. The problem is that we still have ~3 Scum, ~5 Town, and ~2 3rd-Parties. People are getting way too scattered right now, and losing sight of the objective, which is to kill the Lord before tonight, because if we don't, tonight is the night Town gets equally matched by Scum. We
do not need to lynch me or ECrownOfFire (despite his asinine scumminess), who could in no way be the Lord.
You seem damned concentrsated on the devil, but i really think hes the least of our problems. I am convienced Leaf is what he say, since the flavor he paraphrased is perfectly consistent with what i got. Thus all that Leaf is really the vamp lord is bullshit and jsut good to lose time on real hunt. So yeah, being incoherent, self-refuting and using the old dont kill me i'm helpfull don't fly with me
Nothing I've said has been incoherent. If you can't read or understand it, that's not my problem. You can always ask for clarification, but don't blame me for your lack of comprehension:
1) Someone among us is a Vampire Lord falseclaiming as another role. We need to use deductive and inductive reasoning, based on what we know, to find who that is.
2) Leafsnail came up Changer, classic for Vampire Lord. We have no precedent or guarantee that Devil is a "Changer" role, and "Survivor" fits better with the role, since they don't change anythings alignment or role... they are merely Arsonist-Survivors.
3) If Leafsnail converted a Devil, he is provided with a great falseclaim for delaying, while converting Townies. Supernatural 3 showed that 3rd Parties with special win conditions can still be made Vamp Slaves... to which his only argument has been "But Devils don't have blood!" This is both irrelevant AND false (as Toaster mentioned, they do have blood). It's irrelevant, though; when I play Mafia, I go by Game-Precedent and Facts way before I argue Flavor... and flavor is LITERALLY Leafsnail's only defense.
4) There's nothing keeping Leaf from knowing the flavor text his ally got for attempting to deal with you. Assuming the flavor thing wasn't a gambit between you two, that means absolutely nothing to someone who can chat with the real Devil each night.
5) Toaster is a Guard. He claimed he Guarded on D2, or is a Vampire Lord who targeted a Guard on D1, and saw it prudent to falseclaim as him publicly on D2. I don't see a Lord falseclaiming on D2, when they knew so little about the playing field... that could end with him being revealed before he got a power-base. Instinct is to sit back and convert on the fringes... something we see Leafsnail having done. I'll add that ECrownOfFire, our resident Scumbag, lead the pressure on Toaster today.
Look back on D2 votes, when the playing field was unknown, and any Cult Leader who risked bussing a teammate risked ruining their chances for victory if there were Townie Hunters on the prowl... who was it who refused to vote Dariush, the starting Vampire Slave:
Azure Sepulchre, Jim Groovester, Bdthemag, Leafsnail, lordnincompoop
Who among them even went so far as to
defend Vampire Slave Dariush against others:
We should not assume that the scum didn't act last night. They could be a cult, there could be an arsonist style mechanic.
We should all vote Dariush until he can explain why there was no kill on the night I blocked him.
Why did you block Dariush when Kilikan was your top suspect all day?
Add to the above spoiler to MBP the fact that on D2, we still didn't know we were dealing with a Cult, rather than classic nightkillers... yet Leafsnail pushed the assumption that we were dealing with Non-traditional Scum in his defense of Dariush, as though he already knew the flavor... and you've got my case. If you have questions, feel free to ask; this is about as solid as a Vamp Lord case is going to get.
If anyone doubts my theory or intentions based on the chance that I'm Cult, consider this; I was dead N1, so no one could target me. I was guarded N2 and N4, thus unable to be targeted. I could only have been converted if they happened to target me on N3, and that was after we'd deduced that I was likely to be an Impious Priest, thus useless to Scum. The odds are stacked HIGHLY AGAINST me even being able to be converted, much less am I a good target for them; I draw too much fire to be a good lurking survival asset, and I have nothing to offer the Scumteam, unlike most every other player here. I'm among their worst and least likely choices, strategically and statistically.
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