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[lastofthelight]

I could see getting an all-vampire fortress as being an interesting feat; it'd take awhile, but your dwarves would be badass, and could FEED ON MIGRANTS. Anyone looking forward to trying this (or the all-werewolf fortress)?

Heck, I'd be happy with a vampiric Elf Queen somehow ruling our dwarves, come to terrorize us when we find shiny blue rock. To Armok with Cacame - he's oldschool, in the bad way.

[MagmaMcFry]

To Armok with Cacame - he's oldschool, in the bad way.

Sigged for unintended awesomeness.

[Caldfir]

I could see myself creating an all werelizard fort.  I like the idea of opening the gates to the siege on the day before the full moon and having the opposing army be devastated by crazy animal-things. 

[Matz05]

Caldfir--you got almost exactly what I was thinking. First thing that comes by, I can control, and is not lame (Permanantly turning into a fluffy wambler, growing a foot from each shoulder, etc.) becomes ubiquious. Or at least Millitary Standard if being turned into monsters affects labours. Monsterous is good!

[penguinofhonor]

But how do you stop the werecreatures from killing the dwarves who aren't werecreatures yet and just biting them?

Screw that, those ones were too weak.

[Caldfir]

Screw that, those ones were too weak.

!!evolution!!

[Greiger]

Problem with vampires, while a werecreature fortress seems ok because they are just temporarily insane for two days, Toady may not have put in the same non fort ending check for vampires.  Vampires are technically dead after all.

Spoiler: Relevant bit from #14 (click to show/hide)

Toady: But if your fortress can degenerate into werewolves I guess that's an added feature that's new. I guess if you get your whole fortress converted it won't be a problem, because everyone will turn into a fortress at the full moon, and then they'll just run around; they don't bite each other, that was a decision we made, it could go either way but right now it's intentionally coded that they don't hurt their own type of critter. If you have a werelizard and a werechameleon or something then all bets are off, or if you have a weremaggot and a wereantlion or something, all bets are off. But if you have just a bunch of weregoats, and they're all in the same fortress, then it'll just happen that the full moon hits and you lose two days of work and then people have to wander back to wherever their jobs were.

I mean, it's good for ... you kind of want to get sieged on the full moon, then, because they're very effective, biting and gnawing on people. Werewolves are pretty hard and the material weaknesses help them out, because they're strong to most things; you just have to hope that the goblins don't have the proper type of weapon for your fortress. Like if you need iron to kill your weregoat fortress and all the goblins come with iron then it's going to be like a lightsaber duel with only one person coming to the fight with a lightsaber, and that's no fun. I was having a little fight with a werewolf and hit it with the flat of the sword but it was the right type of sword and it shattered the bone, it just kind of busted it apart into little fragments, so it's dangerous if they're using the right type of material. There'll be some weird things, people will definitely be able to run a werewolf fortress. I guess the one issue is - right now, I might change this, having just thought of it - if everyone in your fortress is a werewolf then during that full moon you'll register as having no living dwarves because they're all against you, crazed at that time, as if they were berserk ...

Capntastic:   Then you'd lose?

Toady:   ... and then you'd lose. So I just need to put in a little thing that says they still count as alive if they're just temporarily transformed ... Let me write that in my little file ... 'Temporary transformations should not count against dwarf total for losing the game', there we go. Now that won't be a problem and people will be able to have their full werewolf fortresses. You could even have a segregated fortress based on the weregoats and there werelizards, because they'd kill each other ... Then you could play your underworld war of the lycanthropes underneath your fortress, have a big floodgate between the two fortresses, and release them on each other during the full moon. But you know, it should be cool.

And vampires, I'm not really sure how that's going to play out yet, but something similar probably can happen if your whole ... Although, I'm not sure about vampires, like if one of your dwarves ... because it's a vampire they might be operating out of a coffin or something, and it would be more like one of your dead dwarves is constantly coming out and causing trouble, then that would not be the same as counting against your fortress total. We'll see, I mean it's kind of weird having a vampire in your fortress, because it's like how do you kill it? Do you just have to press 't' and search all the coffins for a living body or something? It's a little weird, but we'll think of something and it'll be fine. Yep, yep, yep ...

So basically while werebeasty fortresses should be possible, I wouldn't get your hopes up for vampire fortress.