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Author Topic: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!  (Read 16026 times)

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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2011, 07:12:33 am »

This shooter apparetelly was some sort of ultra-rightwing, anti-Islam, fundamentalist-Christian. One who spoke quite fondly of the biggest creep politician I have in my country.

While none of this makes any difference to the casualties, it may at least promt some to reflect on their support of such political ideas. Who knows, we might even realise on a larger scale that we should avoid ALL sort of extremism, not just the ones we are dropping bombs on.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2011, 07:39:04 am »

This shooter apparetelly was some sort of ultra-rightwing, anti-Islam, fundamentalist-Christian. One who spoke quite fondly of the biggest creep politician I have in my country.

While none of this makes any difference to the casualties, it may at least promt some to reflect on their support of such political ideas. Who knows, we might even realise on a larger scale that we should avoid ALL sort of extremism, not just the ones we are dropping bombs on.
He, it's al Quaida, Christian edition.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2011, 08:30:57 am by Phmcw »
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2011, 08:22:52 am »

Gotta love crazy bonkers extremists. Well done for putting your mad worldview and ideas ahead of human lives. Really hope there aren't any repeats of this, in Norway or anywhere else, for that matter.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2011, 08:49:58 am »

Holy shit, over 80 killed at the youth camp? How did one person manage that? This is total insanity.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2011, 09:08:51 am »

It sounds as if the murderer somehow had a van ferried onto the island, so it seems logical to assume he had assembled a fully stocked rolling armory. Various reports have him wielding a pistol, shotgun or a scoped rifle.

Media agencies report that the murderer played World of Warcraft.


document.no an Norwegian right wing website frequented by the murderer has compiled all of his comments.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.document.no%2Fanders-behring-breivik%2F

« Last Edit: July 23, 2011, 09:23:55 am by Trappin »
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2011, 09:11:39 am »

My sympathy goes out to all the people who suffered in this tragedy.

Also, I guess they're saying this guy is named Anders Breivik. Yeah, he's right wing extremist.

Some people translated and released his writings...not that it will tell you much, if your looking for a reason why. I suspect extremism doesn't really need one.

http://dougsaunders.net/2011/07/political-thinking-anders-behring-breivik.

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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2011, 09:15:54 am »

It sounds as if the murderer somehow had a van ferried onto the island, so it seems logical to assume he had assembled a fully stocked rolling armory. Various reports have him wielding a pistol, shotgun or a scoped rifle.

Media agencies report that the murderer played World of Warcraft.
Well, of course they did. It's probably completely irrelevant, but it grabs that important 'X Is The Devil' demographic.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2011, 09:29:44 am »

Swedish newspaper DN is reporting that witnesses say there was another man at the shooting, and that there has been another arrest.

edit: By another, I mean that there was more than one killer.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2011, 09:43:24 am »

They were killed because they were social democrats, I believe. At least that's what papers are reporting over here.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2011, 10:21:54 am »

I just finished reading the document.no compilation and have a few thoughts.

The murderers comments are pretty tame, there are no crazy declarations or manifestos or threats of violence. He certainly doesn't sound religious and may be nothing more than a "Easter and Christmas" churchgoer. Hmm, what else. If there is one theme or through-line it would be: multiculturalism, kulturmarxister and Muslim assimilation.

From the movie Se7en.
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             Just know that in this case there's not
             going to be any satisfaction.  If we caught
             John Doe and he were the devil himself, if
             it turned out he were actually Satan, then,
             that might live up to our expectations.  No
             human being could do these things, right?
             But, this is not the devil.  It's just a
             man.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2011, 10:23:39 am »

I wonder if this guy is one of those black metal pagan fanatics? They burn churches up there sometimes.
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2011, 11:00:27 am »

If one man was responsible for this, this could be the most successful lone wolf terrorist attack I have ever seen (in terms of racking up body count, not in terms of it achieving its political goals). Even Timothy McVeigh required help from two other individuals. The only Lone Wolf I remember that even approached that death toll was the Unabomber, and he killed ~20 through a series of bombings.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2011, 11:12:21 am »

There's two people arrested, so I'm not sure he was alone.

Seems the guy was filmed, or at least so the tabloid claim. DN referenced it, though, and I trust them to check the sources of their sources.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2011, 11:44:12 am »

I wonder if this guy is one of those black metal pagan fanatics? They burn churches up there sometimes.
Doubt it, that was quite a while ago and his comments don't lead me to believe that he was a pagan at all.
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Re: Oslo Hit by Terrorism!
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2011, 12:24:10 pm »

Crazy stuff, but hardly all that shocking anymore, unfortunately. It's a dangerous world we live in.
Sure it does. If a radical, irrational mind latches to a pacifist belief system or one dedicated to helping others, he is less likely to kill people over it than if he latches onto part of the political spectrum or a non-pacifist religion. You never hear about radical Buddhist terrorist attacks. Except from the Chinese government.
This, by the way. As Sam Harris said, for example, the more extreme a Jain becomes, the less of a threat they are to anyone and anything other than themselves.
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