Honestly, now you're just being angry.
Look, I was expecting someone who claims to have been able to see both beginner scum in a game to have been able to correctly identify scummy people. I just don't see that. I see you going after minor things.
You're going after billybobfred because...? What is your expert opinion on why he is scum, and tell me why, with all factors, that would be true?
Yes. Got a bit too tired there, sorry.
Getting back in the hunt generally takes a little time. I went after Billybobfred because I wasn't sure of how I felt about him; didn't have much of a read. He was cool about being voted and I felt that his list of analyses had a very towny feel. I didn't have a chance to state that when I saw the new post.
As such,
Unvote. At this point I'm looking at Flandre, Urist McInternetuser (I'd given him the benefit of the doubt due to being a recent replacement, but this level of lurking has simply become absurd), and BDthemag as what is hopefully the final list of three.
Vector, uh... it's a bit disconcerting to hear you admit to trying to play webadict in just the right manner to shake him. Could you elaborate on that?
The more time he spends voting me, the less time he spends voting scum.
Ideally, a townie should promote enough attention to defense that they can become cleared for others' convenience. I have a very strong interest in lynching scum and keeping the attention on them at all times; I try to strike scum more than I try to clear town, though I do both. Webadict, on the other hand, is a town-hunter. The faster I clear myself, the faster he can move on to being more effective elsewhere. At the same time, the way he reacts to my reactions will tell me something about him...
I believe that for town to be effective, they need to be cautious, careful, consistent, and ragingly energetic. Town should play a highly self-preservational game. It isn't that self-preservation is scummy. It's that there's a balance between twin priorities of the preservation of the self and the attacks on others, and the latter should always be more important than the former.
If everyone is trying to lynch you, it gets a lot harder to make your attacks. Your defense takes up more and more of your energy. If you can keep ahead of the curve and answer well before you'd be asked to defend against a full attack, you're generally doing a better job as town. Some friction is good. It helps the arguers clear each other. Too much friction, on the other hand, and you're up the creek. Either you're lynched or you've lost lots of effort in pig-headed fight you could have easily evaded. With luck, you can create just the right amount to learn which way is up.
As I've said, I've been in this particular scenario at least 5 times. I think through what hasn't worked before, and I try something new. Some things have worked extraordinarily badly, despite being plans taken as town, and I work to avoid them. All there is to it.
Billybob: Finally, someone votes me and has actual reasoning behind the vote, I applaud you.
Stop buddying/appeasing.
By the way, you still haven't responded to my case. That makes me think that you're just trying to sweep it under the rug.
I'll add that you're doing better, though: this is why I'm not voting you right now. So have confidence and keep going.
@Vector I didn't say that Flandre is town, I said that Flandre probably is town, as in I'm not suspicious of him at the moment.
Your last post was two days ago.
Two. Fucking. Days.
You were last active on the forums today, only a couple of hours ago.
Get out here and start hunting. You've been providing the shortest possible answers to everything and riding an easy vote. No explanations. No reasoning. Nothing. Cut it out.
Vector:I simply cannot be in your blindspot if you focus a question at me. If it helps you to get a read on me, I would be happy to offer my defense whenever you are ready to start interrogating.
Haha. Okay, here you go, honey :3
Billybobfred: I do not recall ever interrogating you, so I will make a request. Similarly to those entries you have given for everyone above, I want you to give yourself an objective self-evaluation and add yourself to the wall, end result and all.
Asking someone else to interrogate themselves for you, at this point of the game, is simply lazy. It allows you to bend whatever they have to say to your whim. Also permits you to never make any real effort.
I am not attacking your reasoning on any of these individual verdicts (I figure you know what you are doing through experience), but collectively, the chance of something being wrong somewhere is much more likely. None of what I have made bold I find to be especially conclusive, and are the weaker points that I think could be expounded upon to make them believable for the rest of us.
Indirect. Passive.
While it is true that I am nervous to be among those three to whom you have narrowed down your suspicion (which is understandable, regardless of my alignment), I would like to note that circumventing an argument by simply suggesting that you reassess your list should not be confused with meekly pleading for the same.
Suddenly more italics, and you're telling us what's reasonable in advance. Here's my reaction, my reaction's reasonable! But I tried to cover it up, augh, flaiiil~! Tell me, do you use italics when you're feeling especially emphatic? Or nervous? Do your sentences stretch out longer? Here's a hint: normally, you use two clauses. Here, when you start being forced to defend yourself, you stretch to three.
I'm getting a strong feeling of dishonesty from you.
I have not come to any decision on who is scum today, so I am not voting.
Go find some.
Honestly, you're playing too passively. Get your hands dirty. Attack someone. Do you think it's going to be any easier to find scum tomorrow?
No. So get to it.
I'll also note that you haven't responded to Webadict's statement that your behavior is scummy, either, despite posting in the topic. That's a very bad sign.
Does this theory apply so much in a BM, where the scum are sure to be nervous and among the most suspicious?
This implies that you know none of the ICs are scum,
Flandre.
Now, how did you figure that out?