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[Armok]

is it just me or is the fitness function for this just a tilted plane? Would be more intresting if here are, you know, actual complications like tradof and mocal maxima and stuff like that.

[Spreggo]

There appears to be some serious flaws when running on XP. I recommend not running Droplet on XP unless you want to encounter instability.

I'll see if I can begin sorting it out tonight.

Really? I've been running it on my XP comp, and no troubles at all. I've had one problem, but that was when the monitor was turned off via software or when the computer went to sleep. Nothing that bad.

Is there any way we can provide you with the error reports?

You can post the details of the crash here, for now. Eventually I'll have something a bit more official to take care of these things.

Not sure, but you are right that there are inconsistencies about whether or not it will run properly. I did manage to completely crash the graphics drivers of an XP computer at work in a test though, so I assumed that someone else might encounter a similar issue.

is it just me or is the fitness function for this just a tilted plane? Would be more intresting if here are, you know, actual complications like tradof and mocal maxima and stuff like that.

There is no 'fitness function' if you mean something that determines whether or not a cell should be rewarded/killed or not.

[Dsarker]

Do weaponised cells use energy to power them?

[Spreggo]

Do weaponised cells use energy to power them?

Yes - the spikes have mass, and the cell pays upkeep based on its total mass. Other structures add mass too. I'll be tweaking the numbers to balance things out a bit more as we go.

[Dsarker]

Is it possible to post the upkeep numbers here? I'm thinking we could theorycraft the most efficient cell.

[Neonivek]

Interesting game though the fact that it is extremely early in development is painfully obvious (not that your hiding that)

Do Cells even attack with spikes in real life?

The only part of the current game I didn't like was that the cells couldn't reproduce with eachother. Especially because for some reason the game decides to give "male and female" reproduction to the starting cells that start with only one copy (which is often the lead cause of death within 5 seconds)

2) Cells should have a mutation rate(which can be 0).  Whenever they split they should have a chance of changing one of their attributes or behaviours

Well in nature that is usually caused by the type of reproduction.

A 0 would be some sort of fantastical animal

[Max White]

Do Cells even attack with spikes in real life?

I am no microbiologist, so the chances of me being wrong are astronomical, but I'm under the impression that they shoot chemicals at each other or try to eat each other.

[Spreggo]

Do Cells even attack with spikes in real life?

No clue. The spikes are only representational - Droplet is not a simulation of actual biology.

The only part of the current game I didn't like was that the cells couldn't reproduce with eachother. Especially because for some reason the game decides to give "male and female" reproduction to the starting cells that start with only one copy (which is often the lead cause of death within 5 seconds)

You must be playing an old version: The current version spawns groups of cells with different genders and they do indeed mate, as long as they are not too far away. Manually added cells can be copied or split (and edited if necessary) by the player to get the correct gender combinations. It is however, unlikely that asexual cells will evolve gender, as only one cell is reproduced at a time.  Not impossible though.

Is it possible to post the upkeep numbers here? I'm thinking we could theorycraft the most efficient cell.

The numbers are in flux at the moment. I'm also not totally sure what the best way to represent them is. Maybe as more get set down in stone I will take the time to draw them up properly.

[Max White]

Regardless of if this is meant to model biology, it very, very well shows the four principles behind any form of evolution, biological or otherwise. I dare say this program alone could be used to show up creationists.

I sort of want a version that acts as your computer wall paper.

[Neonivek]

I meant two entirely different cells.

[Dsarker]

Regardless of if this is meant to model biology, it very, very well shows the four principles behind any form of evolution, biological or otherwise. I dare say this program alone could be used to show up creationists.

I sort of want a version that acts as your computer wall paper.

I do have to poinr out that they could simply write a program which doesn't evolve and just everything appears at once....

[Max White]

While yes, you could do that, it wouldn't show any of the principles involved. What you could do, instead, would be to sit in a room and program in front of a crowd of people.

[Neonivek]

Regardless of if this is meant to model biology, it very, very well shows the four principles behind any form of evolution, biological or otherwise. I dare say this program alone could be used to show up creationists.

I sort of want a version that acts as your computer wall paper.

I do have to poinr out that they could simply write a program which doesn't evolve and just everything appears at once....

As well the end result of the game will almost always be a LARGE spiked Cell which lives off the dead bodies of its cousins... Or death.

[Willfor]

Regardless of if this is meant to model biology, it very, very well shows the four principles behind any form of evolution, biological or otherwise. I dare say this program alone could be used to show up creationists.

I don't want to get into a debate on this subject, as I am not supportive of the creationist position, however I know enough of about it to know that this is misinformation. They believe in this form of evolution, and have no doubts as to cell mutation whatsoever. Even the Young Earth ones.

[Spreggo]

As well the end result of the game will almost always be a LARGE spiked Cell which lives off the dead bodies of its cousins... Or death.

Just an energy use issue - right now it doesn't cost very much to have weaponization maxed. I'm tweaking this now, among other things, so there should be some better balance in the next release.

(Evolution vs Creationism)

It is true that Droplet works using a system of natural selection, but I can't possibly hope to mimic it so well that it would make a useful praise or critique of evolutionary theory or creationism.

I meant two entirely different cells.

Sorry - I'm not really sure what you mean. Cells of different species cannot reproduce with eachother, which is intended behavior. There can be very distinct individual variation throughout the population of a single species. If they reproduce sexually there is a lot of blending going on which you can usually watch happen.