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Urist McLongbeard

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2011, 03:52:40 am »

When I have a search, the url dont show the numbers, only # ¿How do I get him?

Okay, now the game id should be displayed in the address bar of your browser. Just copy the link from there.
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2011, 03:54:03 am »

There should be an option to manually add games to the database and give it tags. I'm sure there are people here who would put in the information for X game they just got, and you'll get a much more stable db than with just a crawler.
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2011, 04:08:48 am »

There should be an option to manually add games to the database and give it tags. I'm sure there are people here who would put in the information for X game they just got, and you'll get a much more stable db than with just a crawler.

In theory - yes, the community effort should give much more precise results than me and the crawler alone. Still, it is tricky - there always will be someone trying to ruin it: adding some crap or removing relevant entries. I haven't (yet) thought of the way for things to be resilient enough.
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2011, 04:47:29 am »

The thing is you'll often have more people tring to be helpful than ruining it.
It's just a matter of managing the destructive trolls.
I sugest having a list of the hundred most reccent edits so you or the users can flick through it to see which edits are junk edits and correct accordingly.
Other options include; saving versions of the entries periodicly so you can roll back any damage inflicted; having user levels so some users can add new entries but not edit entries they didn't add, where as more trusted users can preform more edits.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2011, 08:12:20 am »

Whereas a search for Portal 2 returns a link to both The Orange Box and Narbacular Drop, and The Orange Box and Narbacular Drop are linked (interestingly, Brink is related to The Orange Box, but not Portal 2, and is show in the graph for Portal 2, but is the only example of such an occurrence that I can find--edit, ah, no, found some for 3D chess that do this too).

Yep, as I've said, some links are missing. However, the existing links should help you find something anyway. The problem with chess seems to be that chess isn't so popular among gamers, so noone probably bothered to add links for chess. Detecting sequels (see above) supposedly will help to find missing links between all the sequel parts.

What about the "links of links" thing (edited my quoted post for relevance)?
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2011, 08:37:40 am »

Whereas a search for Portal 2 returns a link to both The Orange Box and Narbacular Drop, and The Orange Box and Narbacular Drop are linked (interestingly, Brink is related to The Orange Box, but not Portal 2, and is show in the graph for Portal 2, but is the only example of such an occurrence that I can find--edit, ah, no, found some for 3D chess that do this too).

Yep, as I've said, some links are missing. However, the existing links should help you find something anyway. The problem with chess seems to be that chess isn't so popular among gamers, so noone probably bothered to add links for chess. Detecting sequels (see above) supposedly will help to find missing links between all the sequel parts.

What about the "links of links" thing (edited my quoted post for relevance)?

Nothing about it, really. It's just how the thing works: if there are very few linked games  to your original search (the precise number is currently 5), it goes further and performs the search for every linked game - that's your links of links thing.

The limitation exists due to performance concerns. Also the chart looks bad when there are too many results and the links between games look like a spider web.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2011, 08:52:26 am »

This is exactly what i was looking for. Thanks.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2011, 08:59:31 am »

Clicking on one of the nodes should centre the view on it, ie do the same that typing that game's namew in the search box would do.
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2011, 09:13:11 am »

Clicking on one of the nodes should centre the view on it, ie do the same that typing that game's namew in the search box would do.

Yup, will do that.
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2011, 04:30:00 am »

Clicking on one of the nodes should centre the view on it, ie do the same that typing that game's namew in the search box would do.

Okay, this is done. Double-clicking a node would center on it and perform a new search (simply clicking was used already to drag the boxes around).
Also the browser history should be working now: you can use 'Go back' and 'Go forward' buttons to go back and forth through your search history.

Had to change the links for the history to work, had to change the hash (#12345) to a conventional parameter (?id=12345).
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2011, 08:10:13 am »

Needs lots and lots of polishing. How about combining all sequels and addons of any given game into a single node? (unless they differ in genre very much)

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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2011, 08:19:25 am »

Needs lots and lots of polishing. How about combining all sequels and addons of any given game into a single node? (unless they differ in genre very much)

Sounds reasonable. However, I was going to add readers/editors score for every game so that it would be possible to filter out crappy games, and sequels tend to have good and bad parts.
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2011, 08:29:52 am »

Maybe it would better to simply rip the score off IGN or gamespot or somesuch?

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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2011, 08:32:28 am »

Also, maybe you should replace the ID in the URL with a tag so instead of pressing search and typing a user could just go to http://game-graph.appspot.com/?id=dwarf_fortress and get to the desired game's page?

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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2011, 08:50:27 am »

Maybe it would better to simply rip the score off IGN or gamespot or somesuch?

It is already ripped.

Also, maybe you should replace the ID in the URL with a tag so instead of pressing search and typing a user could just go to http://game-graph.appspot.com/?id=dwarf_fortress and get to the desired game's page?

Maybe, but is there a point to it (except for making URL look readable)?
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