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[Kay12]

Protip for topside constructions - clay provides infinite building stone.

but a clay fort isnt as dwarfy as a hulking box of obsidian.

No problem, just cast obsidian over the clay mold once you have a chance to.

[Fredd]

Since in the version I am using I cannot remove the economic status of obsidian(in fact obsidian does not show up even on the stone menu) i just use a utility to make a large multi level of obsidian  on the surface, and excavate it at my leisure,

[RAKninja]

Since in the version I am using I cannot remove the economic status of obsidian(in fact obsidian does not show up even on the stone menu) i just use a utility to make a large multi level of obsidian  on the surface, and excavate it at my leisure,

this bug is not an issue if you have obsidian naturally.  oh well.

how about a shining silver castle?  mine is mainly copper (on the second floor, severely underestimated how much it was going to take, and i was impatient).

you could always carve the castle out of the rock.... prolly a little faster than constructing it all.

or, best, using a mixture of carving and construction, make a fortress out of the mountain, with outer walls that double as an obsidian factory, and a lava moat.  make sure to build it from the highest point on your map!

[Fidna]

For building roofing I tend to just place a ramp in a spot where I'll want a wall, build the rest of the wall (so they have something to stand on), construct the roof, disassemble the ramp, and use that building material to complete the wall. I remember in older versions I have an abnormally easy time of building things like castles made of obsidian with golden or platinum bed chambers.

[notquitethere]

Yesterday I managed to completely deforest the entire heavily-forested starting location just in building five two-storey wooden buildings. I thought it would be neat to have each person's accommodation above their work-place. This isn't the best idea, as work-shop noise keeps Dwarfs awake.

I kept building vertically with each migrant wave, so eventually I had a huge shanty town with bridges spanning different levels (a bit like Megaton in Fallout 3).

What killed it all in the end was greed: because I'd deforested the map, and new trees were spawning too slow for my needs, and I was determined at first to only use wood, I dug down to the underground caves and started harvesting the underground trees. Then a Forgotten Beast came and killed 35 of my dwarfs, and another dozen or so killed each other in lawless abandon.

[Reverie]

Notquitethere, if the dwarf is asleep, his own workshop will not make any noise. Maybe his spouse might complain if he works while she tries to sleep...

[notquitethere]

Well that much is true, but the trouble was that there was a terrace of workshops, so the carpenter would be disturbed by the mechanic churning out mechanisms in the wee hours. It would have been okay if I had completely detached buildings, but then I'd definitely have no wood left.

[ArKFallen]

I like the sound of this mod and shall try it after my current fortress.

The utility DFusion has a feature allowing that, but there's no non-cheating way.

I've also got two ideas that may be fun:
1]After the first or second choke point you could have a 3-wide hallway with chains placed near the walls and designated for jail. This way if, heaven forbid, the FB manages to get passed your front lines it'll waste time on your convicts and give what's left of your military time to regroup.
2]Alternately you could build a "police station" where the leader of your Fortress Guard and his squad of "police" watch over the prisoners in their cells. You could even make it to where it doubles as a shelter and "locks down" in case of prison break or monster rampage. It should probably be more than one level, or it'll take up mountains of space.

This isn't the best idea, as work-shop noise keeps Dwarfs awake.

Didn't toady say that workshops cause no noise?

[notquitethere]

Didn't toady say that workshops cause no noise?

*Checks*

You're right! It must have been the constant construction keeping the dwarves awake. With this in mind, feel free to build workshop/bedroom combos to your heart's content.

[mrchace]

Really cool guys, the ideas are really helping this come together and expand my mind a little on the possibilities of the game itself. I havent started yet, i am still running through rough drafts on paper right now. Deciding how possible this really is without any cheats. I'm imagining a lot of problems keeping my fort alive through random invasions while also finding a perfect embark site each time I have to restart (if I can even stomach restarting). With cheats this is a fairly simple task where most if not all pitfalls can be avoided where as the straight and clean path will most likely lead me to hours of intense frustration and optical blood loss. I am also shying away from using clay as it can be considered an unfair advantage.


Is it possible to seal myself off from the edges of the map relatively easily? I can handle making the fortress self reliant and build the architecture, but doing this while building a military is going to severely limit my *Edit* Lava Magma DWARFpower which I can easily see leading to the end of the universe as we know it.

[Bomepie]

My above ground fort:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is me blatantly showing off, I apologize for nothing, especially not posting in multiple threads

BEHOLD MEGADORF™




FUN FACTS ABOUT THE MEGADORF™:

*The MEGADORF™ stands 72 zlevels tall
*The MEGADORF™ has the ability to drink and piss water or magma(but not both at once).
*The MEGADORF™ has room for over 300 dwarves if the rooms were constructed and could easily be self supported out of the farming area in the beard(if someone bothered to irrigate more of it).
*The MEGADORF™ has pump stacks reaching down to a cavern lake and the magma sea which require around 1.5k power which is supplied by ground level windfarm.
*The MEGADORF™ required over 45k blocks, 7k raw stone, and 5k metal bars to build.
*The MEGADORF™ was carved by someone with no artistic talent or experience in three dimensional modeling.
*The MEGADORF™ claimed 65 dwarf lives in its construction and in excess of 200 pet lives.

With planning labels:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[RAKninja]

Really cool guys, the ideas are really helping this come together and expand my mind a little on the possibilities of the game itself. I havent started yet, i am still running through rough drafts on paper right now. Deciding how possible this really is without any cheats. I'm imagining a lot of problems keeping my fort alive through random invasions while also finding a perfect embark site each time I have to restart (if I can even stomach restarting). With cheats this is a fairly simple task where most if not all pitfalls can be avoided where as the straight and clean path will most likely lead me to hours of intense frustration and optical blood loss. I am also shying away from using clay as it can be considered an unfair advantage.


Is it possible to seal myself off from the edges of the map relatively easily? I can handle making the fortress self reliant and build the architecture, but doing this while building a military is going to severely limit my manpower which I can easily see leading to the end of the universe as we know it.

building aboveground is not really very dangerous, so long as walls are your first priority.  for example, you can remove all of the "ramp" tiles on one side of a hill/mountain, and wall off the other, so all the z levels of that entire hill are under control your dwarves, and inaccessible to all but fliers and marksgoblins.  so long as you do not start out in an area where flying things are a problem, you'll be unassailable.  to speed things up, you can build your workshops outside, quarry out a little room for beds and storage, and get to work on initial fortifications (with drawbridge, usually up, to allow for migrants and caravans).  that done, encase your workshops in buildings, and build "proper" housing and storage areas.then start sculpting the mountain into a fortress

i didnt go exclusively topside on my current fortress, but i have substantial surface construction.  one surface area is immune to all but fliers, being enclosed in a wall with no openings.  the other surface construction is even more of a deathtrap to invaders than my "primary and underground" fortress entrance.  i have siege engines watching the passes, and marksdwarves in the tower, plus my most experienced soldiers are quartered in the tower (to better respond to my cavern problems, the tower straddles my mineshaft to the magma sea) and for when an ambush sneaks up on me when i have the bridge over the moat down for some reason.

oh, if you dont like clay, use glass blocks.  they cost a resource to make.  that plus the presence of sand may mean you have a soil layer or two to scrape off before you can carve a hill into a castle.

[mrchace]

Really cool guys, the ideas are really helping this come together and expand my mind a little on the possibilities of the game itself. I havent started yet, i am still running through rough drafts on paper right now. Deciding how possible this really is without any cheats. I'm imagining a lot of problems keeping my fort alive through random invasions while also finding a perfect embark site each time I have to restart (if I can even stomach restarting). With cheats this is a fairly simple task where most if not all pitfalls can be avoided where as the straight and clean path will most likely lead me to hours of intense frustration and optical blood loss. I am also shying away from using clay as it can be considered an unfair advantage.


Is it possible to seal myself off from the edges of the map relatively easily? I can handle making the fortress self reliant and build the architecture, but doing this while building a military is going to severely limit my manpower which I can easily see leading to the end of the universe as we know it.

building aboveground is not really very dangerous, so long as walls are your first priority.  for example, you can remove all of the "ramp" tiles on one side of a hill/mountain, and wall off the other, so all the z levels of that entire hill are under control your dwarves, and inaccessible to all but fliers and marksgoblins.  so long as you do not start out in an area where flying things are a problem, you'll be unassailable.  to speed things up, you can build your workshops outside, quarry out a little room for beds and storage, and get to work on initial fortifications (with drawbridge, usually up, to allow for migrants and caravans).  that done, encase your workshops in buildings, and build "proper" housing and storage areas.then start sculpting the mountain into a fortress

i didnt go exclusively topside on my current fortress, but i have substantial surface construction.  one surface area is immune to all but fliers, being enclosed in a wall with no openings.  the other surface construction is even more of a deathtrap to invaders than my "primary and underground" fortress entrance.  i have siege engines watching the passes, and marksdwarves in the tower, plus my most experienced soldiers are quartered in the tower (to better respond to my cavern problems, the tower straddles my mineshaft to the magma sea) and for when an ambush sneaks up on me when i have the bridge over the moat down for some reason.

oh, if you dont like clay, use glass blocks.  they cost a resource to make.  that plus the presence of sand may mean you have a soil layer or two to scrape off before you can carve a hill into a castle.

Architectural challenge is exactly what i'm aiming for with this task and I am digging the ideas man. thanks a lot.

I wonder, does anyone else have interest in this? Would someone or a group of people be willing to take on this challenge with me and with an allowance tweaks to the overall challenge theme based on player preference?

I'd say something like...

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Challenge Requirments:
No Cheats, Scams or Exploits
All primary structures and workshops above ground.
A Castle of some sort for the nobles.
No Super Traps, Drowning Chambers (water or lava), atom smashing enemies, etc. (NO STUPID DWARF TRICKS)
Path should be clear from entrance to Castle. Drawbridges allowed to block path.
A paved road through town from castle to entrance

Optional:
Labyrinth like architecture
No Magma/Lava
Epic Military

On the note. I am using Genesis but am playing as dwarfs still. Now I understand the "Advantage" of the mod, but as far as im concerned thats vanilla for me you know? So this challenge is based off of what Genesis provides. I have no intention of restricting it to Genesis, could care less what mod you use i'd just like to see some cool involvement with this. Maybe fire up stonesense after and see how she looks in colorful mock 3d.

Im open to anything. Keep it comin.

[mrchace]

My above ground fort:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is me blatantly showing off, I apologize for nothing, especially not posting in multiple threads

BEHOLD MEGADORF™




FUN FACTS ABOUT THE MEGADORF™:

*The MEGADORF™ stands 72 zlevels tall
*The MEGADORF™ has the ability to drink and piss water or magma(but not both at once).
*The MEGADORF™ has room for over 300 dwarves if the rooms were constructed and could easily be self supported out of the farming area in the beard(if someone bothered to irrigate more of it).
*The MEGADORF™ has pump stacks reaching down to a cavern lake and the magma sea which require around 1.5k power which is supplied by ground level windfarm.
*The MEGADORF™ required over 45k blocks, 7k raw stone, and 5k metal bars to build.
*The MEGADORF™ was carved by someone with no artistic talent or experience in three dimensional modeling.
*The MEGADORF™ claimed 65 dwarf lives in its construction and in excess of 200 pet lives.

With planning labels:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

AMAZING

[Kay12]

My above ground fort:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is me blatantly showing off, I apologize for nothing, especially not posting in multiple threads

BEHOLD MEGADORF™




FUN FACTS ABOUT THE MEGADORF™:

*The MEGADORF™ stands 72 zlevels tall
*The MEGADORF™ has the ability to drink and piss water or magma(but not both at once).
*The MEGADORF™ has room for over 300 dwarves if the rooms were constructed and could easily be self supported out of the farming area in the beard(if someone bothered to irrigate more of it).
*The MEGADORF™ has pump stacks reaching down to a cavern lake and the magma sea which require around 1.5k power which is supplied by ground level windfarm.
*The MEGADORF™ required over 45k blocks, 7k raw stone, and 5k metal bars to build.
*The MEGADORF™ was carved by someone with no artistic talent or experience in three dimensional modeling.
*The MEGADORF™ claimed 65 dwarf lives in its construction and in excess of 200 pet lives.

With planning labels:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Sorry, I'm quite a newb, but the beard part (labeled as farms) is confusing me... how can you farm on constructed areas?