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Author Topic: "How hard can we MAKE it?" : Spain Total War (Bonus 2 : Seleucid Gold)  (Read 38377 times)

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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P2)
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2011, 04:53:16 pm »

They realize your innate superiority and are conspiring to dogpile you as fast as they can with everyone who knows you exist.

It's been failing so far. :)
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P2)
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2011, 05:07:05 pm »

I'm pretty sure the AI just likes going straight for you when it disadvantages you most. I recall ragequitting once as Macedonia because the Brutii landed troops to take Corinth, having ignored everything else, at the same time as the Greeks pulled a full stack out of their arses, Thrace attacked me and my allies Dacia attacked me.
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« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2011, 05:32:43 pm »

Have you tried Numidia? Even if you, somehow, manage to survive against your only neighbors, the Carthaginians, you are a scripted target for Rome and they'll wipe you out one hand tied behind.

IMHO the RTR is more balanced than the stock game (also by far more realistic), but if you need a challenge, yeah, any non-Egypt, Roman or German or Sarmation faction will do.  :P

Bactria in RTR is also fun, if you survive against the Seleuc Empire, you'll face all the factions that ate it, and it is the largest one, with 40 or so cities, in the beginning of the game. At least you get elephants...
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P2)
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2011, 05:42:01 pm »

RTR?
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« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2011, 05:42:34 pm »

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« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2011, 05:46:29 pm »

Have you tried Numidia? Even if you, somehow, manage to survive against your only neighbors, the Carthaginians, you are a scripted target for Rome and they'll wipe you out one hand tied behind.

IMHO the RTR is more balanced than the stock game (also by far more realistic), but if you need a challenge, yeah, any non-Egypt, Roman or German or Sarmation faction will do.  :P

Bactria in RTR is also fun, if you survive against the Seleuc Empire, you'll face all the factions that ate it, and it is the largest one, with 40 or so cities, in the beginning of the game. At least you get elephants...

Yes, yes he has tried Numidia.

The end result was a 20-turn blitz that basically routed the entire world. So, no, Numidia is not challenging (at least for Stworca!).
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P2)
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2011, 06:18:54 pm »

Numidia was a "I have a unit of peasants? Send them to siege Rome" Blitz. I don't like playing this way, but Numidia was no let's play. It was just a short presentation of their units and possibilities. Numidia is still a far better faction than Spain in my opinion. Better cavalry, archers instead of slingers and defense-oriented infantry, not to mention their dirtcheat, reliable skirmisher cav.

I do like moving fast and always forward, aka. Armenia, but at the same time i like having a failsafe. My turtle strategy involves having a big, unbreakable wall around a heavily garrisoned city that can withstand nuclear blasts (Like Kotais in "FOOL" LP) and if i have a few such cities on the borders, i advance with no fear.

The problem with that as Spain is : We don't have neither stone walls NOR archers..  ::)
We can get both : Cretan Archers in Greece and Turkey, and walls by sieging a city that has them (Like.. Carthage!) but with Britons declaring war on us with 3000+ unit stacks, and everyone allying left and right it's not likely that we'll get either.

*Gasp* spoiler about Britain!? Well, yes, but what did you expect?  :o

Also : Despite losing thousands of soldiers for nothing, Gaul still has crushing number advantage over us..
As well as : Julii have 3 cities, yet they produce a full stack every few turns.

I may run a RTR or EB game in future, but now i have too many games on "To do" list.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2011, 06:29:55 pm by Stworca »
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P3 - Your Turn, Spain)
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2011, 08:58:14 pm »

The game hates us more than usually in this update.

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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P3 - Your Turn, Spain)
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2011, 09:14:30 pm »

How did the Carthaginian force catch up to you at the city?

In any event, you're now much better off than my last attempt at Spain. I expect your ranking is due in no small part to the sacking of Carthage.

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« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2011, 09:44:13 pm »

Come on Stworca, you can do it!
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P3 - Your Turn, Spain)
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2011, 12:14:20 am »

Damn, you are fast with these updates.
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P3 - Your Turn, Spain)
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2011, 12:53:34 am »

Stwor, you kill anything with anything. You say screw it; Send light infantry against heavy cav and win!
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P3 - Your Turn, Spain)
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2011, 01:52:21 am »

Yeah, the fact that your only defeat was against an enemy with 4 time as much troops and better one at that, and that you still manage to kill twice as many men as you lost make your whole claim this is the hardest game of RTW ever a bit ridiculous. Still, awesome update. I wonder how you'll manage to siege full-stack, rock-wall Roman cities.
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« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2011, 04:12:49 am »

Damn, you are fast with these updates.

It's because it's not a roleplaying LP. Armenia was taking a long time, because i had to come up with some pathetic "humor" attempts, that ultimately failed, insulted everyone and left a bad taste in my mouth (like when i was in prison, the bad taste didn't go away)

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It's all about shock power breaking enemy morale. If you have 3 inf and 1 cav, and the enemy attacks you with 10 inf and 3 cav, you can still cause a chain rout.
Naked fanatics are a curious unit. 13 attack, 7 defense (7..) warcry, bonus in snow, bonus in woods, charge bonus.

Charging two of these (after warcry) on both flanks of a unit, ANY unit, will break it. But should the combat drag on, the low defense will cause your force to be wiped out. Against the AI it is possible to turn any 2v2 into 2 2v1's, giving a fighting chance.
Bull warriors are even more of a curious unit. Their javelin throw has 17 base attack. Not one archer band has that much. (The British head hurlers do, i believe) But their other stats fit hastati more than an elite unit. Except for the god morale that is.

Time for our Caralis half-a-stack to do something, don't you think, viewers?
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P3 - Your Turn, Spain)
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2011, 04:14:36 am »

I demand a full army of bull warriors, for teh "Our javelins shall blot out the sun!" jokes, and teh lulz.
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