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Author Topic: "How hard can we MAKE it?" : Spain Total War (Bonus 2 : Seleucid Gold)  (Read 38328 times)

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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P6 - Them Spaniards)
« Reply #135 on: July 23, 2011, 07:04:23 am »

It's not a difficult faction to play as, mind you. Just annoying as hell. I cannot recommend a rebel playthrough difficulty-wise. When played correctly you can waltz through the entire east in no time, and having Egypt + Jerusalem on no-riot mode (Rebel cities can not rebel, even with 100000 people in it) you'll curbstomp the entire world easily.
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P6 - Them Spaniards)
« Reply #136 on: July 23, 2011, 07:05:42 am »

My RTW is on Steam.  Any idea on how I can edit the game from there? 
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« Reply #137 on: July 23, 2011, 07:35:58 am »

Should be in your steam folder, under steamapps and common.
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #138 on: July 24, 2011, 10:17:42 am »


Some viewers have asked about general battle advise. I'll try giving as much as i can in the following updates. Starting with this one. Hope it helps you, although i recommend watching some youtube let's play's too. (instead?)
Let's get on with it.


Spoiler: The ACTUAL battle (click to show/hide)
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #139 on: July 24, 2011, 10:52:20 am »

Stworca, you really are a god of shock and awe tactics.  A few questions:

1. At what distance should you use warcry?  When you're about to charge, or will it work at further distances? 

2. How in the name of [insertdeityhere] do you manage to encircle a single regiment fast enough?  For example, I've got two regiments, vs one regiment, we all have the same units.  Usually, I send my two regiments to charge them, then try to get one of the two regiments to run around and flank them, but this is just to slow.  Any tips?  ( This entanglement issue also applies with mass cavalry charges, I can't get my equites to pull back fast enough. )

3. Do javelin units inflict more morale damage than, say, hastati?  If so, I'd best start recruiting more velites. 

Stworca, you are the first person to show RTW battle tactics in an (somewhat) easy to understand format.  I really need all the help I can get on this stuff, I have trouble going after Gaul, on normal mode. 
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #140 on: July 24, 2011, 10:59:58 am »

I can answer the last one NRDL but your question is kind of vague in someways.

  If I'm correct instead of hiring velites you might as well hire Illyrian mercenaries, they're in greece, are easy and cheap to hire and I've held entire forts with them. Mercenary peltasts are just bad. Overall you're better using slingers or archers.

  Also, Hastati have much better melee capabilities than Velites. Gaul are quite easy though if they use warbands.
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #141 on: July 24, 2011, 11:02:16 am »

I can answer the last one NRDL but your question is kind of vague in someways.

  If I'm correct instead of hiring velites you might as well hire Illyrian mercenaries, they're in greece, are easy and cheap to hire and I've held entire forts with them. Mercenary peltasts are just bad. Overall you're better using slingers or archers.

Ranged attackers like velites, do they have better morale destroying capabilities than hastati?  I'm playing as Julii, so I really need to know the specific units.  However, the Illyrian mercenaries might look promising, I'll look into them. 
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« Reply #142 on: July 24, 2011, 11:15:52 am »

You should limit the use of jevelinmen to minimum. I use them, because Spain doesn't have any archers and slingers (crap when compared to archers) are a high tier unit which we can only make in Carthage.
The only worthwhile javelin-only unit are the Greek Heavy Peltasts, who are decent in melee. Aside from that, i'd take an extra principes unit over velites always.

As Spain i play with the armies i have, not the ones i want.

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At what distance should you use warcry?  When you're about to charge, or will it work at further distances?

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Have them advance apart, away from each other. Try encircling the enemy as much as possible BEFORE the first hit takes place. Preparations win the battles very often.
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #143 on: July 24, 2011, 12:04:03 pm »

posting to watch this truly interesting thing.
question, what do you use to take photos and make the youtube movies?
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #144 on: July 24, 2011, 12:06:45 pm »

Fraps to capture screenshots and movies.
Movies i trim down in size with virtual dub.
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #145 on: July 24, 2011, 12:11:48 pm »

Fraps to capture screenshots and movies.
Movies i trim down in size with virtual dub.

i tried fraps a while ago but it gave me lagging movies (i tried it with napoleon total war) ...and lagging game with crashes to desktop.
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i'm unlucky.
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“Well,” he said. “We’re in the Forgotten hunting grounds I take it. Your screams just woke them up early. Congratulations, Lyara.”
“Do something!” she whispered, trying to keep her sight on all of them at once.
Basileus clapped his hands once. The Forgotten took a step forward, attracted by the sound.
“There, I did something. I clapped. I like clapping,” he said. -The Investigator And The Case Of The Missing Brain.

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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #146 on: July 24, 2011, 04:59:42 pm »

In the next update :

- Marian Reforms (At least i think so.. Is Cav Auxilla a post-reform unit?)
- SPQR + Scipii Army and "Snowflake in Vulcan's Forge" (450 "Roman Armored General Bodyguards", the most powerful cav in the game)
- Julii campaign AI is THE most retarded AI ever made (remember the rebel cities just north of them? Yeah.. They remain rebel cities for 5 turns already.. It annoys me to no end, and thus i won't wait too long.)
- Getting rid of factions left and right (guess which ones?)

Stay tuned. The end draws near.
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Re: "How hard can it be?" : Spain Total War (P7 - Morale Breaking ABC's)
« Reply #147 on: July 24, 2011, 05:14:21 pm »

Pretty sure cav auxilia are the missile cav before reforms.
 Also I'm guessing Carthage, gaul if you haven't already, Numidia and possibly SPQR.
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« Reply #148 on: July 24, 2011, 05:32:54 pm »

Pretty sure cav auxilia are the missile cav before reforms.
 Also I'm guessing Carthage, gaul if you haven't already, Numidia and possibly SPQR.


I can confirm Cavalry Auxilia are before reforms, but they are a relatively high tier unit for the roman factions. Possibly within one or two upgrades to reforms, possibly less.
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« Reply #149 on: July 24, 2011, 05:34:20 pm »

And I'm guessing Scipii, Carthage, and Numidia.
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