Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5

Author Topic: Should PE stay in school programs?  (Read 6313 times)

Darvi

  • Bay Watcher
  • <Cript> Darvi is my wifi.
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2011, 01:31:41 pm »

Well, we've got a pretty interesting system in the UK where basically everything is required for the first three years, then you can drop quite a few subjects.
Three years? You can't choose until the eighth year here D:
Logged

G-Flex

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2011, 01:37:30 pm »

Physical education is important. Learning how to exercise decently (and, preferably, eat well and take care of yourself in general, although that's not quite PE) is very important, especially these days when everyone is so damn sedentary.

Yes, most jobs don't require heavy physical activity these days, but life and health, if nothing else, demand that you remain physically fit and at least somewhat active.


My problem with gym in school is that it seemed so out-of-place. Who wants to go to four academic classes, then do a bunch of physical activity, then go right back to classes? That always seemed bizarre to me, because the last thing I want to do before going back to class is get sweaty or tire myself out. I think proper scheduling is important there, but I guess that can be difficult.

Yes, PE should be compulsory for all ages. I've had very good and very bad experiences with PE teachers over the years, and the fact is that they're no different from other teachers when it comes to quality variation.

I mostly agree, but I feel that (at least in my experience and those of others I've talked to), there's not a whole lot of expectation placed on PE teachers to actually teach anything... resulting in the stereotype of a fat guy with a whistle yelling at a bunch of kids to "HUSTLE" while sitting on a chair. We need more expectations out of PE programs, because as it is, it seems like there's no real goal at all except "show up and do whatever activity is assigned".
Logged
There are 2 types of people in the world: Those who understand hexadecimal, and those who don't.
Visit the #Bay12Games IRC channel on NewNet
== Human Renovation: My Deus Ex mod/fan patch (v1.30, updated 5/31/2012) ==

vagel7

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2011, 01:40:27 pm »

We have mandatory swimming lessons in elementary school here. The way things worked for you should be in every school.
Logged
That last gobbo would stand there, missing an arm, punctured in a kidney, liver, and spleen, fading in and out of consciousness at the far end of where the drawbridge would go, and his last sight would be the drawbridge dropping down and smashing him like a bug.

God DAMN I love this game!

MetalSlimeHunt

  • Bay Watcher
  • Gerrymander Commander
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2011, 01:43:25 pm »

We have mandatory swimming lessons in elementary school here.
I envy your program. Seeing my classmates lack what I consider to be a basic skill is very *headdesk*.
Logged
Quote from: Thomas Paine
To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
Quote
No Gods, No Masters.

Azkul

  • Bay Watcher
  • Also,
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2011, 01:52:58 pm »

I was quite unfit when I was in Secondary School, PE (amongst other things) heavily damaged my self-esteem, I stopped going to school and socialising largely because of it.
Logged
Whereas !!ALCHEMY!! has, since the times of Kings Arthur and Charlemagne, been about transforming oneself into a horse using feces.
It turns out sleep is unnecessary because you can just get married and get infinite kisses

vagel7

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2011, 01:57:09 pm »

Our PE teacher is the fat guy standing around and blowing the whistle. ALso all we do is run, do push ups, abs, run some more and play basketball(which I seriously hate playing on a large scale).
Logged
That last gobbo would stand there, missing an arm, punctured in a kidney, liver, and spleen, fading in and out of consciousness at the far end of where the drawbridge would go, and his last sight would be the drawbridge dropping down and smashing him like a bug.

God DAMN I love this game!

ggamer

  • Bay Watcher
  • Reach Heaven through Violence
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2011, 01:58:21 pm »

I was quite unfit when I was in Secondary School, PE (amongst other things) heavily damaged my self-esteem, I stopped going to school and socialising largely because of it.

Because of PE.

Bro, I am probably about 100 pounds heavier than you are, and I never had self esteem issues.

Why would you have self esteem issues for that.

I probably shouldn't say that, I don't really have a psychology degree. Still.

Physical education is important. Learning how to exercise decently (and, preferably, eat well and take care of yourself in general, although that's not quite PE) is very important, especially these days when everyone is so damn sedentary.

Yes, most jobs don't require heavy physical activity these days, but life and health, if nothing else, demand that you remain physically fit and at least somewhat active.


My problem with gym in school is that it seemed so out-of-place. Who wants to go to four academic classes, then do a bunch of physical activity, then go right back to classes? That always seemed bizarre to me, because the last thing I want to do before going back to class is get sweaty or tire myself out. I think proper scheduling is important there, but I guess that can be difficult.

Yes, PE should be compulsory for all ages. I've had very good and very bad experiences with PE teachers over the years, and the fact is that they're no different from other teachers when it comes to quality variation.

I mostly agree, but I feel that (at least in my experience and those of others I've talked to), there's not a whole lot of expectation placed on PE teachers to actually teach anything... resulting in the stereotype of a fat guy with a whistle yelling at a bunch of kids to "HUSTLE" while sitting on a chair. We need more expectations out of PE programs, because as it is, it seems like there's no real goal at all except "show up and do whatever activity is assigned".

This sums up my opinion on the matter.

G-Flex

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2011, 02:01:18 pm »

I was quite unfit when I was in Secondary School, PE (amongst other things) heavily damaged my self-esteem, I stopped going to school and socialising largely because of it.

Because of PE.

Bro, I am probably about 100 pounds heavier than you are, and I never had self esteem issues.

Why would you have self esteem issues for that.

Because PE is a competitive activity where there's pressure to perform, no significant advice or education is given to those who need it most (fat kid? just yell "HUSTLE" again and chew him out for being fat), and people's physical weaknesses are made obvious to everyone else.

Yeah, obviously not everyone's going to respond the same to it psychologically, but it's still not a good environment, and the teachers don't often help.
Logged
There are 2 types of people in the world: Those who understand hexadecimal, and those who don't.
Visit the #Bay12Games IRC channel on NewNet
== Human Renovation: My Deus Ex mod/fan patch (v1.30, updated 5/31/2012) ==

Azkul

  • Bay Watcher
  • Also,
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2011, 02:03:16 pm »

It doesn't help that the school I went to was one of the most sport-focused schools in the country.
Logged
Whereas !!ALCHEMY!! has, since the times of Kings Arthur and Charlemagne, been about transforming oneself into a horse using feces.
It turns out sleep is unnecessary because you can just get married and get infinite kisses

vagel7

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2011, 02:04:14 pm »

I also think the teachers don't need any degrees to teach PE, which means that any bum can theoretically teach PE.

Also PE teachers usually don't do anything and when they want you to do something totally new they won't show it or explain it. Like pole vaulting and high jumping. And when you ask them to show something mostly they say that "I have done it in my time, I don't need to do it again". That sentence means that they can't do it.

EDIT:Some PE teachers don't know what an injury means. Those guys would make you run if you don't have a note from the doctor even if you are in a wheelchair and mark that you didn't take part in the lesson which mean that 3 things just dropped in your report card.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 02:07:19 pm by vagel7 »
Logged
That last gobbo would stand there, missing an arm, punctured in a kidney, liver, and spleen, fading in and out of consciousness at the far end of where the drawbridge would go, and his last sight would be the drawbridge dropping down and smashing him like a bug.

God DAMN I love this game!

ggamer

  • Bay Watcher
  • Reach Heaven through Violence
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2011, 02:14:01 pm »

I guess I just have a good coach.

We don't do all of the high jumping and pole vaulting shit. We stretch, then we go outside.

Football, on the other hand.

Still, when we lift weights, coach always shows us if he introduces a new lift.

vagel7

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2011, 02:17:06 pm »

We don't lift weights. Part of that might have to do that the guy has never lifted anything in his life. Stupid ball of lard.
Logged
That last gobbo would stand there, missing an arm, punctured in a kidney, liver, and spleen, fading in and out of consciousness at the far end of where the drawbridge would go, and his last sight would be the drawbridge dropping down and smashing him like a bug.

God DAMN I love this game!

Flying Dice

  • Bay Watcher
  • inveterate shitposter
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2011, 02:22:29 pm »

Honestly, I think that PE, along with Home Ec and some sort of basic business class that teaches students how to not be total morons when it comes to finances and employment, should all be mandatory up through secondary school, judging from the complete mess so many people make of such basic parts of their lives. 

On another note: Just because you had a bad experience with one teacher or coach doesn't mean that the concept as a whole is flawed.
Logged


Aurora on small monitors:
1. Game Parameters -> Reduced Height Windows.
2. Lock taskbar to the right side of your desktop.
3. Run Resize Enable

vagel7

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2011, 02:23:52 pm »

How does PE teach you not to be morons??

Morons dwell in that class. Also it is not with one but many. Like three.

We had one awesome dude though, and he was totally awesome. Unfortunatley he only teached for a year.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 02:26:33 pm by vagel7 »
Logged
That last gobbo would stand there, missing an arm, punctured in a kidney, liver, and spleen, fading in and out of consciousness at the far end of where the drawbridge would go, and his last sight would be the drawbridge dropping down and smashing him like a bug.

God DAMN I love this game!

Darvi

  • Bay Watcher
  • <Cript> Darvi is my wifi.
    • View Profile
Re: Should PE stay in school programs?
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2011, 02:26:44 pm »

By teaching people teamwork, fair play, and how not to be a sore loser and stuff.

Also, if there's morons in your class then that's hardly the fault of PE right?
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5