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[Aseaheru]

Launching rockets into space isint safe either...

[KingofstarrySkies]

Yes but the engine is designed for that :x
One would assume it requires some space-plane bits.

[Aseaheru]

Landing gear, sure.

[Jopax]

Heck, you can go even further and make a flying car by giving it some wings or something, and throttling up whenever you need to jump over something

[KingofstarrySkies]

you know maybe i should try this after i work out how to get into a fokken orbit

I don't think I've even landed on the Mun, yet.

[BFEL]

The rover wheels are "designed" for land exploration, but they are SOOOOOOO SLOOOOOOOW. Alternately you can use landing gear and rockets/jets for TEH FASTNESS but this is dangerous.

Basically land exploration is like ion burns but a thousand times worse.

I don't think I've even landed on the Mun, yet.

Note: Forget landing gear, use girders in leggish configuration, Landing Gear is Trampoline on the Mun.

[miauw62]

For land exploration you really just want to build a basic plane and fly it everywhere, I think.

[puke]

Basic vtol, so you can land and take ground sci and reset experiments.

Actually, rough terrain landings are much easier now, As long as you dont have huge fragile wings.  Or you could even land on chutes and repack them.

[Jopax]

Or you could try and make a science bomber. Dropping experiments and crew on locations by using chutes before flying back to base. You then take command of the crew on site, collect what you need and reclaim the vessel

[puke]

I have not looked at the map in a while, but most biomes can be hit with a pretty short flight from KSC.

I think the exceptions are desert and artic, which are easier to hit with a rocket while you're flying some other missions.

And then tundra and badlands which I almost always have to fly to (managed to hit tundra with a rocket only once) but the flight is so long I usually don't worry about them.

[Shadowlord]

I landed an orbital tour rocket in the desert and took readings with the onboard science equipment before recovering it.

Never bothered aiming for the poles, though.

[Rose]

The trick with jet powered cars that greatly increases usability is spoilers.

[puke]

The trick with jet powered cars that greatly increases usability is spoilers.

Totally.  I usually science-scumm a low tech jet car around KSC as soon as I have a basic jet engine and a materials bay.  slapping some angled fins on the sides to create some down-draft (or whatever the car enthusiasts call the downward aerodynamic force generated from spoilers and sloped bodywork) transforms them from bouncing/flipping deathtraps into totally driveable cheat-mobiles.

[LoSboccacc]

At same tech level you can have a plane with chutes that can grind all center plus roofs that have their own biome and also the nearby water hills and mountains as far as the southwest desert

[BFEL]

Hey anyone else using the Interstellar Expanded stuff for this version? Specifically anyone discovered whether the "active cooling" from Liquid Nitrogen they added can be used to replace heatshields? Would provide an interesting and reusable way to enter atmospheres.

Relatedly, do radiators actually tie into the vanilla heating mechanics yet or is that coming Soon^TM?

Secondary question: Do the Magnet engines generate thrust in atmosphere? The tooltip notes "not rated for atmosphere" so does that mean it only works in space?