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[Siquo]

Ah yes it is! I'll look into the R&D stuff, thanks!

[Sheb]

So I was thinking of fianlly getting some mods (MechJeb, KAS, FAR and the Kethane Pack come to mind) and I was wondering if a) they're integrated in the career mode (I know MechJeb is, but I'm not sure for the other) and b) do I need to start a new game in career mode after installing them?

[Siquo]

I haven't been able to get any of those to work completely, so I'd like to know the same

[Oliolli]

This can't be happening...

I managed to get to Minmus. I went on EVA. But then I flew too high, too greedily.

Jeb came down so hard... There was nothing I could do...

AND THAT ROCKET WAS FULL OF SCIENCE!

[LoSboccacc]

there are some nice tradeoff involved when using mission controller and remote tech:

mission are way cheaper if you use a satellite instead of a capsule, especially considering the fuel costs which are not returned upon reentry.

but launching satellites means keeping a link to the space center at all time and you don't have the budget to build a full network, so you have to plan beforehand what to leave up there.

so in the mun landing mission I had, because lack of planning, left nothing to relay my signal from the mun - bringing an antenna to the landing incurred the risk of the mun cutting the connection on the final descent.

so I changed the stack so to use the transfer stage as an impromptu relay - I had to wait the exact time to get the sunny side of the mun to also be facing the ksp - antenna requires a lot of power!

so here it is, the lander with a cheapo lightweight antenna using the transfer stage as bridge to the ksp - the craft had to be entirely redesigned to hold two probe core (one in the lander and the other in the relay to keep it active) and the launch vehicle had to factor in for leaving enough fuel in the transfer stage for circularization.

Spoiler: much math later (click to show/hide)

 

[Sheb]

How does mission controller interface with the career mode?

[LoSboccacc]

it doesn't really tie in, you get some additional point from mission and that's that.

I am using it in sandbox, you'd need a more appropriate and balanced mission package for career.

[alway]

Most efficient way to assign research to parts not set up for it:
1. get Notepad++ (if you are a sane person, you already have it)
2. Find in Files: Filter: *.cfg Directory: <modfolder>/Parts search term: cost
This will give you a list of all parts (and a count), which will open em for you when you doubleclick; nice and quick.

Tech name in the cfg seems to follow a camelcase scheme (Science Tech) -> (scienceTech)

So:
TechRequired = scienceTech

Note: if you do this after your save researched the research pre-req, you will need to go into the tech workshop, click on the tech, then click on each part; it will prompt you if you want to research that part (it's free).

Converted over both Kethan and KAS in under 15 minutes in Notepad++; and that's because I felt like making some of the techs sensible.

[Sheb]

Would you mind sharing your work? Yup, I know I'm lazy, but I wouldn't know what tech to assign to each part.

[Anvilfolk]

This can't be happening...

I managed to get to Minmus. I went on EVA. But then I flew too high, too greedily.

Jeb came down so hard... There was nothing I could do...

AND THAT ROCKET WAS FULL OF SCIENCE!

Noooooooooo! Time to send Bill on a ROCKET-rescue mission! The best part is that you only need a one-way rocket

[LoSboccacc]

Would you mind sharing your work? Yup, I know I'm lazy, but I wouldn't know what tech to assign to each part.

found this with google. open it at your own risk

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sm3jkzfoyhfhk9c/Kethane%2BTechTree.zip

source http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/printthread.php?t=23979&pp=40&page=83

[BigD145]

Would you mind sharing your work? Yup, I know I'm lazy, but I wouldn't know what tech to assign to each part.

found this with google. open it at your own risk

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sm3jkzfoyhfhk9c/Kethane%2BTechTree.zip

source http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/printthread.php?t=23979&pp=40&page=83

Pretty sure that one works fine. For KAS use this:

Code: [Select]

@PART[KAS_Container1]
{
    TechRequired = start
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Container2]
{
    TechRequired = start
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_ContainerBay1]
{
    TechRequired = start
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_CPort1]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_CPort2]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Hook_Anchor]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Hook_GrapplingHook]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Hook_Magnet]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_HookSupport]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Pipe1]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Pylon1]
{
    TechRequired = generalConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Strut1]
{
    TechRequired = generalConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Winch1]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Winch2]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Winch3]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}

@PART[KAS_Winch4]
{
    TechRequired = specializedConstruction
    entryCost = 0
}Just make a text file and rename it whatever.cfg
You will need modulemanager. Don't use the current beta. 1.3 works fine. Just put the cfg in gamedata/kas/


kethane tech tree

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

//Powered by ialdabaoth's ModuleManager

//This file will add all kethane parts to the stock 0.22 tech tree. Except the Kerbal blender/converter, because no Kerbal would ever research how to use themselvs as fuel.

@PART[kethane_1m_converter]
{
  TechRequired = precisionEngineering
}

@PART[kethane_2m_converter]
{
  TechRequired = fieldScience
}

@PART[kethane_generator]
{
  TechRequired = advElectrics
}

@PART[kethane_heavyDrill]
{
  TechRequired = specializedConstruction
}

@PART[kethane_highGain]
{
  TechRequired = fieldScience
}

@PART[kethane_radialDrill]
{
  TechRequired = advConstruction
}

@PART[kethane_sensor_1m]
{
  TechRequired = advExploration
}

@PART[kethane_smallDrill]
{
  TechRequired = advConstruction
}

@PART[kethane_tank1mLarge]
{
  TechRequired = heavierRocketry
}

@PART[kethane_tank1mStandard]
{
  TechRequired = fuelSystems
}

@PART[kethane_tank2mExtralarge]
{
  TechRequired = veryHeavyRocketry
}

@PART[kethane_tank2mLarge]
{
  TechRequired = veryHeavyRocketry
}

@PART[kethane_tank2mMedium]
{
  TechRequired = heavierRocketry
}

@PART[kethane_tank2mSmall]
{
  TechRequired = heavierRocketry
}

@PART[kethane_tankExternal]
{
  TechRequired = fuelSystems
}

@PART[kethane_turbine]
{
  TechRequired = hypersonicFlight
}



And of course the mechjeb link. http://jenkins.mumech.com/job/MechJeb2/

[Descan]

Yeeeeees. Thank you!

That's all my mods that weren't techified! Now they are and I can GOT TO SPEHS

[Oliolli]

This can't be happening...

I managed to get to Minmus. I went on EVA. But then I flew too high, too greedily.

Jeb came down so hard... There was nothing I could do...

AND THAT ROCKET WAS FULL OF SCIENCE!

Noooooooooo! Time to send Bill on a ROCKET-rescue mission! The best part is that you only need a one-way rocket

If Jeb came down hard, him and his science are GONE!

Well he didn't have any science with him at the time. I did send Bill out though, and he returned with around 600 science. By the time he returned Jeb had respawned.

Jeb's original rocket is still there, however. Bill landed about 90 km away from Jeb's landing zone.

[BigD145]

Yeeeeees. Thank you!

That's all my mods that weren't techified! Now they are and I can GOT TO SPEHS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAW2lygZC_4