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[LordSlowpoke]

I ran into a surprisingly stable KMP server. How did it achieve its stability?

it resets and wipes everything after one hour

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

At least, I have further perfected my space station module production capabilities. I have actually managed to stuff both the fighters and refueling facilities for them into one module, which can be attached directly onto a core module for early protection of assets. In this case, Minmus. I claimed the entirely of Minmus for my purposes one of these hours. I didn't get to do jack with it, but still. Mine!

To note is, 0.1.1.3 is actually playable this way. Progress!

[WillowLuman]

If you transmit something the first time you get it, do you miss out forever on the full value?

[forsaken1111]

If you transmit something the first time you get it, do you miss out forever on the full value?

NO
You never lose science, ever. If you transmit you are just deducting that amount from the total you can earn from that biome. You could, given unlimited energy, just sit there and transmit repeatedly and eventually get it all.

[WillowLuman]

So there's no need to actually return the craft except for the "recovered craft" bonus?

[Putnam]

If you transmit something the first time you get it, do you miss out forever on the full value?

NO
You never lose science, ever. If you transmit you are just deducting that amount from the total you can earn from that biome. You could, given unlimited energy, just sit there and transmit repeatedly and eventually get it all.

This is being fixed come .23.

[WillowLuman]

So, come .23 you actually LOSE science for transmitting first?

[forsaken1111]

If you transmit something the first time you get it, do you miss out forever on the full value?

NO
You never lose science, ever. If you transmit you are just deducting that amount from the total you can earn from that biome. You could, given unlimited energy, just sit there and transmit repeatedly and eventually get it all.

This is being fixed come .23.

Care to elaborate?

[Descan]

Transmission percentage will go down with each transmission.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Transmission percentage will go down with each transmission.

It already does. Or, well, the science value does. You transmit the same but get less and less every time.

In .23 there will be a limit to how much science you can simply transmit. Things like soil samples, air samples, goo experiments, materials lab experiments - anything that isn't simple words or numbers IRL - will never yield their full scientific return if all you do is transmit. You still don't lose any science - but you'll have to actually bring some stuff back to Kerbin (a few times) to actually get all of it. That was my understanding.

[forsaken1111]

Neat. Good change

[Descan]

I thought it was transmissions percentage goes down. Which is completely different than science value and I don't see why you would think I meant science value.

[Sean Mirrsen]

The blog post mentions both "transmission yield" and "science gain from transmission decaying to 0%".

I'm guessing the actual mechanic for the cutoff will indeed involve cutting the actual transmission yield (in addition to the science value loss that happens currently), but the effect is still the same. There will be a maximum of how much you can transmit. You'll be able to increase that maximum with the science lab module, processing experiment results "in the field" to increase the transmission yield, but you'll still likely end up with less than "all" of the science points if you don't return your ships and experiments home.

[MagmaMcFry]

In that case, they should make science parts able to store multiple experiment results, especially since, say, any mission to the Mun can easily get you into at least 10 different science biomes, much more if you count the gravioli detector.

[Putnam]

They're adding a part that allows that, too.

see here

[MagmaMcFry]

Oh, in that case I almost fully approve of this, although I'd require that only the goo canisters and the Science Jr. need to be returned, since all other science parts just record information which should be fully transmissible via antenna.