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[Aseaheru]

But its STEAM. they are even worse than EA! (99.9999999% of the time anyways...)

[Dutchling]

What's so bad about Steam? I've seen countless of anti-Steam threads in the Paradox forums and nobody ever seemed to have any good points. Sure, disabling patching and playing offline doesn't always work very well, but that is only an issue with games that have Steam DRM. Games without that, like KSP I assume, can just be copied to  another folder to avoid autopatching and they can be played without Steam.

[Aseaheru]

DRM, the fact that it is SLOW, the fact that even if the game is on the computer AND HAS ON ONLINE MODE YOU MUST BE LOGGED ON AND ON THE INTERNET, the fact that IT ALMOST NEVER LETS YOU ON...
shall I go on?

[Aseaheru]

Ah, but if you DONT have a insanely stable high speed internet...

[Sean Mirrsen]

In all my short time using Steam (versus time having it installed, heh), the only inconveniences it's made me endure is the periodic updating, and the occasional failure to enter offline mode. Which is annoying, and I think I'll kill TF2 (I don't play the thing anyway) to limit the download amounts, but... nothing outrageously wrong happened so far. The few games that weren't made available for my country just gave me more of an excuse to seek alternate distributors.

[Aseaheru]

Im sorry if I rant too mutch, I really have had a bad time dealing with them.
I shall miss you Civ V...

[Dutchling]

Aseaheru, you only have to be logged in (or have Steam installed on your computer for that matter) if the game uses Steam DRM. Not all games use it,  most if not all Paradox games don't, and I doubt KSP will use it either.

[Dutchling]

It will, obviously, not use the Steam overlay that way. But this might actually be preferable in a game like KSP. It's slow enough as it is.

[10ebbor10]

Also, when's the last time you used it. They patched the offline mode about half a year/ a year ago, and it should now work most of the times. Not always, but often.

Oh, and I highly suspect this'll be something similair to what egosoft did with X³, ie completely optional. Backlash would be to big otherwise.

[Fikes]

Add to the derail!

I spent three months in Afghanistan with literally the shittiest, least reliable internet known to man. Zero problem playing my Steam games. Most of the time Steam was left in offline mode, of course, but I literally had no problems.

On the rare occasion where I did want to download a game from Steam while out there, the service was more reliable than most other internet sites/downloads/what ever. Steam didn't care that I got disconnected every three minutes.

If nothing else, I am excited to see how many hours I have played in KSP when it gets on Steam.

Anyways, back to the REAL topic here. Did the new patch increase the frame rate at all? KSP simply isn't playable for me and I have a pretty decent computer. With the sound popping every 7 seconds, 7 minutes of takeoff taking 30 minutes to render, and exploding on the 6th minute, I can't bring myself to try building anything interesting.

[Putnam]

DRM, the fact that it is SLOW, the fact that even if the game is on the computer AND HAS ON ONLINE MODE YOU MUST BE LOGGED ON AND ON THE INTERNET, the fact that IT ALMOST NEVER LETS YOU ON...
shall I go on?

1. That's a user issue.

2. That's not even remotely true. My brother played 25 hours of Borderlands 2 on steam with no internet connection on offline mode.

3. It always lets me on fine. Seems like a user error.

[Sirus]

Who knows? If it's on Steam, it might be easier to update

[forsaken1111]

The intro video is amusing.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/220200/

[Aseaheru]

OK.
I DONOT think everyone has the issues I do.
The fact that it got patched is USELESS as my account got killed by them FOR NOTHING (really. i cant get anything and the only things i had done on there was installing (and briefly playing) a NEW copy of Civ V)
Also, thank you dutchling for that info. I wish i knew that a year ago but... oh well.

[Putnam]

my account got killed by them FOR NOTHING (really. i cant get anything and the only things i had done on there was installing (and briefly playing) a NEW copy of Civ V)

Did you ask them? Because they are very responsive to issues like that.