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[Guardian G.I.]

KSP version 0.18 will not be compatible with earlier saved games, for obvious reasons.

Also, that's how the the abovementioned action groups are set up in the dev. build:

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[ank]

Will we be able to alter control schemes in orbit?
I'm thinking that you'd want to change the controls if you dock multiple parts that have to work together.
Otherwise you'd have to plan really carefully.

[Nelia Hawk]

Will we be able to alter control schemes in orbit?
I'm thinking that you'd want to change the controls if you dock multiple parts that have to work together.
Otherwise you'd have to plan really carefully.

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/entry.php/294-Yet-Another-Docking-Update-Docking-Controls

looks like they changed/updated how you control the ship, if thats what you meant.

Resources (fuel, electrical energy, modded resources) can be transferred between ships through docking ports, or shut off for whatever reason.

whoo a new energy resource.
i always thought about spacestations and "moon-ground-stations" like a mix of the games "SS13" and "Space Colony".

there would be a "building designer" building where you can design blueprints of spacestations or parts of spacestations that you dock to other parts and even buildings that you can build on other planets.

the building would be with a bunch of 1x2x1 tubes (connecting rooms) and 1x1x1x blocks (bunch of them make rooms) a bit like the "SS13" station is build up or the "buildingdomes" in Space Colony.
and each block/room could be have equipment build at the inside walls (consoles/chairs/lamps/storages) or outside walls (ladders/mechanical arms/solar panels) or both (i.e. airlocks).

building them could be with construction modules, when used with a kerbin you could select a saved blueprint that "howers" in space near the construction module (some console/construction arm).
in space the start of a station could always be a airlock/docking part that would act as "anchor/root/start" for the other parts.
on the ground the construction module could create a foundation where you then start build the building "blocks" on.

the blueprint is a new "ship" that needs to be build yourself then.
either with shipping complete parts near the construction module (arm grabs it and moves it to the required place and welds it together, maybe there are "rails" outside of the "airlock root" similar to ladders where the construction arm could move along to further away areas of the blueprint.)
or inside crates, that you load into new storage parts (might open on the sides? with little arms that move the crates out?) and that then is used with the construction module. maybe kerbals could move them around too... but i wonder how it would look like when they carry a crate... well maybe they drag or push it around... probably less a issue in space where they could float it through airlocks... well probably easyest to just be used with the construction module.... like:

the more you add on a blueprint the more full parts or crates you need to move to space to make the whole blueprint.
a little station might be something like:
30 room blocks, 1 bed, 1 table, 1 chair, 3 consoles, 4 solar panels, 10 lights, 24 ladders, 1 airlock, 12 storagecrates (food, batteries, airtanks etc containers to storage resources basically.).

and each small storage part that you can load with crates to move them to space (imagine a empty fueltank) might hold 10 crates and a big storage part 30.

and with the resources and added storage room equipment and consoles and all each building/station could produce/need several different resources like:
energy (consoles use it, solarpanels/generators produce it),water (made from mined ice?),air (plants produce air),food (made by hydroponics equipment),minerals (mined on planets, used for construction/research).
and everything a station/ship produces/needs would be simple +- numbers (i.e. each console -1 energy, each solarpanel +1 energy, each kerbin -1food and -1air) or a maintenance info button in the tracking station that shoes these numbers and avaiable storage and how many days/weeks/months it lasts.
and you could move the resources around with the storage crates. i.e. transport more food from a moon base to a spacestation.



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but the KSP devs are pretty awesome in what they do... the solar panels/dockign and energy recource are a great start to stations.
so i guess they will come up with a fun stuff/mechanics for stations, probably with the "inside kerbal movement" (IVA?) might add a bunch of stuff to do for kerbals inside parts/stations.

[Aseaheru]

iva. now, if they had a way so that we can go and start a colony several light-years away...

[forsaken1111]

iva. now, if they had a way so that we can go and start a colony several light-years away...

Light years away? Can we get the ability to start a colony in our own solar system first?

Also perhaps put some things on Kerbin itself?

[Aseaheru]

why?

[forsaken1111]

why?

Why not?

[Aseaheru]

exactly.

[forsaken1111]

exactly.

So you agree with me?

[Aseaheru]

no, im just saying why not allow colonies in other solarsystems before adding cities to our own world.

[forsaken1111]

no, im just saying why not allow colonies in other solarsystems before adding cities to our own world.

Because it doesn't make logical sense to colonize a distant solar system when you can't even colonize a world in the local system? Or even the planet you live on.

[Mephansteras]

Even if they did add in the capability to go interstellar and make colonies, there isn't any reason you wouldn't be able to use the same tech to make colonies on the existing planets of the Kerbin solar system.

[forsaken1111]

Even if they did add in the capability to go interstellar and make colonies, there isn't any reason you wouldn't be able to use the same tech to make colonies on the existing planets of the Kerbin solar system.

I know that, I'm just poking fun. Stop spoiling it.

[Aseaheru]

but its so much fun!

[Ozyton]

and with the resources and added storage room equipment and consoles and all each building/station could produce/need several different resources like:
energy (consoles use it, solarpanels/generators produce it),water (made from mined ice?),air (plants produce air),food (made by hydroponics equipment),minerals (mined on planets, used for construction/research).
and everything a station/ship produces/needs would be simple +- numbers (i.e. each console -1 energy, each solarpanel +1 energy, each kerbin -1food and -1air) or a maintenance info button in the tracking station that shoes these numbers and available storage and how many days/weeks/months it lasts.
and you could move the resources around with the storage crates. i.e. transport more food from a moon base to a spacestation.

If you look at KSP .18 you will find that there are resources stored within tanks (oxidizer, liquid fuel, electrical energy, xenon gas, etc.). In conjuction with the planned feature "Saving Parts: The ability to save parts and reuse them in a different ship, like a lander" there could be a potentially more elegant solution. You pack a ship full of construction resources which will later be used up as the base is constructed. You would then go to the Mun, or wherever you wish to have your base located with your rocket, and actually design the building right on-site sort of like the old roller coaster tycoon games where you created your roller coasters to suit the surroundings. Because of the future ability to save parts in the VAB you should be able to simply load a pre-designed base if you wish.

Then your kerbonauts would begin construction, using robotic arms built on the ship (or even a construction rover you designed, once those are in) to help place the structures. It would be neat if you had to manually move the arm, so you needed to actually build the base yourself. Or screw around and toss your kerbonauts with the arm =3

Exploring Kerbin itself would be cool, and while the artists aren't busy they could be working on that.

My keyboard is dying so I'm off.