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Author Topic: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission  (Read 1491431 times)

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On the other hand, having your mods segregated like that makes it easier to update (or disable) them when a new version comes around, and some work and some don't.
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You can't pick and choose your KSP version, which is where mod versions fall apart making a manager necessary. You have to make separate installs of KSP, so you might as well have the mod loadout you want in each install. New KSP version = mods don't work. You need a new KSP install anyway to cut down on possible vanilla file conflicts.
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Eighteen orange tanks? Wow, that's alot of Kerbosene, The most efficient heavy Lifter I've ever devised needed 9 Orange tanks and 2 Oranges worth of 1/4 tanks in order to launch a full orange into a 200km orbit.
Required over a dozen resesigns and 6 launches before I learned to throttle down before the first stage hit 200 km/s.
In later news Jebediahs Space program has started, After an audacious first launch which was unexpectedly manned at the last minute, Kerlington Model Rocket and Paper Products have partnered with Jebediah, Bill, and Bob in order to science the skies.
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Edit: Mission controller seems OK, but a lot of parts have pretty unbalanced prices, if a single seat command pod costs 8k, mech jeb should cost a whole lot more than 4k, also, 400 for an orange tank? Fuel's really cheap, I'm going to need to rebalance the prices of each part as they become available.
It seems I'm misunderstanding how Mission controller calculates costs, fuel is seperate? I'm going to see what I can do to change costs. Hmm, 50k bucks for an orange tank worth of fuel seems excessive, what kind of funding do mission controller missions provide? I might reduce fuel costs a little.
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I have been struck with an idea, but it requires some save file editing. Hence, I have two questions:

1. If you, hypothetically, landed a spacecraft on something in one save, then wanted to put it on the same body in another save, how would you do this?
1b. Could you use this same method for spacecraft in orbit around something?
2. If I wanted to remove a probe body from it to keep it from being controlable, how would I do that?
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It's surprisingly easy on both counts actually. The save file format is really simple - all you need to do is find the ship in the first save file, copy-paste it into the other one, and then edit the probe out.

As for how to DO that - first you'll wanna name the ship something easy to search for, because otherwise it'll likely be a pain to find. Then, you go to the persistent.sfs file in your saves/<savefilename> directory and copy everything from the start of the "VESSEL" tag, to the end of it. Which can be a bit annoying to locate, but simple enough. Similarly, each part in the ship is a PART {} tag, which you can just delete. Just have to find the probe body, select that full tag, and get rid of it.
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Thanks! Now I just need to remember where I had put MechJeb so I can do all that...
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I added mods last night to improve my game (I hoped). When I loaded up the sandbox, none of the things I had would load because of missing parts. I head to the VAB and discover that no parts are available to build things with. As far as I can tell, the problem is that the game doesn't think I have those parts unlocked. Of course, that doesn't explain the lack of flags. I start a new Sandbox game, and determine that the parts are missing from that, too.

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Well then. Glad I made a backup. Time to try again, I guess...

EDIT: A more careful re-install worked. Although now I've discovered that I suck at cheating.
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Did you by chance delete/overwrite the Squad folder?

That's about the only thing I can think of it being.
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Dunno.

Um. New problem. After copying the spaceship from one file to the other, I've discovered that neither save wants to load. I click Continue and nothing happens. Any idea why? Could it have something to do with the deleted probe body being the central part?
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Was the probe connecting two branches in the same ship? Then you done fudged it all up. You made two crafts in one craft sort of section.
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It was the core part. I took off all but one of the "branches".
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I think you have to have a core of some sort.
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Oh.

And I just remembered that I planned to try putting a stack separator between the probe and the bit I wanted to keep. That would have probably helped.

Now to...do something.
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I design lots of my ships with parts that will decouple, usually mod related so when things break or I drop a mod I don't lose an entire craft.
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I always explained to myself that a spaceraft responding to my input going in the opposite direction (yawing left made the craft going right) was due to random flaws in the model triggered by having rotated a surface on a weird angle.

turns out it is the expected behaviour at high speed if you have a large enough control surface

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