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[BigD145]

Kick up the debug menu and look for null refs as you build and as you launch. You're likely to get them with duped parts and 1 year into a mission your ship will explode. It is a big deal. Save yourself time and just make a proper install.

[nogoodnames]

Even if I don't use any of the duped parts? I literally cannot use them at all. Trying to place them anywhere results in the game getting stuck and requiring a restart.

[BFEL]

Did you also delete the ships folder and the etc folders that came with B9? It gives like 3 or 4 last I checked.

Yeah, I avoid B9 simply because its stupidly hard to get the shit to actually work as intended. No idea what is up with that.

[Greiger]

Theres a few things I love about B9.  I love the heavy duty landing gears and how hugely customizable they are reverse motor? Check, Steering? Check, variable lengths? Check... I love the absolutely beautiful intakes, and I love the cargo bays.

I hate the wings (the smallest B9 wing is too big for almost anything I want to build, and the procedural wings mod pretty much obsoletes any wing, vanilla or not anyway), there's only 2 cockpits in the pack I like, and only one of them actually has an interior, The dual mode engine is broken and obsoleted by vanilla now anyway, while pretty the intakes seem a bit overpowered, and since the project had basically been abandoned for more than one major update outside of a few compatibility patches, a lot of stuff behaves oddly.

If somebody knows of any good alternatives to B9 for spaceplane parts it would be appreciated.

[nogoodnames]

I doubt the craft files have anything to do with it. They can't store part definitions and certainly can't store models.

I only get null refs after attempting to place a glitched part and after that I need to restart the game. I've already gone through most of the tech tree in career mode and nothing bad has happened yet. I don't intend to make a fresh install unless things get unplayable.

Greigor: you can try spaceplane+. It hasn't got quite the variety of B9 but it does have some pretty good (and good looking) parts.

[Greiger]

Ohhh pretty, It's even my favorite fuselage size.  Thankees.

[Aseaheru]

And get ALCOR with some of the Raster prop changing things, notonly does Raster work with spaceplane+ but the ALCOR is sexy as fuck.

If I can find a manual on the thing I may even go and try doing IVA missions...

[nogoodnames]

Well I just wasted two large scale launches while trying to replace my old remotetech communications network. The first one because I forgot that angles don't get larger over longer distances and the second because I forgot that 90 degrees is bigger than 60 degrees. Apparently I can handle rocket science and orbital dynamics but not grade school geometry.

[nogoodnames]

Edit: Nevermind, I am dumb.

[nogoodnames]

So yesterday I tried out DarkMultiPlayer on a private server and it worked pretty well. There were no crashes and only a few noticeable bugs. The biggest problem I encountered was a bug where the game wouldn't allow me to return to the space center or recover the craft after landing, but that happened rarely and switching craft or reconnecting solved it.

Granted this was on a LAN with two players, but things seem to be working well enough that it might be worth it to set up a Bay 12 server.

[MaximumZero]

Mother of chrome...Bay12 multiplayer KSP? Could you imagine the carnage and the overly dwarven rockets? May science have mercy on the heavens.

[nogoodnames]

Yes, I can picture the chaos. The skies rent by the fire of a hundred over-engineered booster stages. It will be glorious and terrible to behold.

If there's enough interest I could potentially host a server, but I don't have any experience managing these things. Preferably the host would be someone who actually knows what they're doing. It seems really easy to set a server up, though. And it doesn't require many system resources since almost everything is client-side by necessity.

[nogoodnames]

Yeah, from what I've seen DMP is a lot better than that. You can actually do things like fly in formation.

[miauw62]

We could have huge naval battles.

[Gentlefish]

Is... That actually a mod?