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[Tilla]

What? This thing is still in development? I dimly remember playing ADOM years ago. I kept dying pretty quickly, but looking back, I think it could have been a pretty good game if I had been better at it.

The feature list looks very quite interesting, but frighteningly ambitious. It's kind of ambiguous here just what the schedule is. The first withered husk of a tech demo is to be released "Ii the very near future (very near)", and using a phrase like that is just asking for unforeseen technical problems and unpredictable delays. And after that, work needs to start on the actual features. Are we going to see a playable game in a matter of months, years or decades? Only time will tell.

Anyway, the thread's hit page four, and there's only been two people complaining about how this game is ripping off Dwarf Fortress. Progress!

It's not unpredictable, Thomas says the tech demo alpha is out this weekend.

[Geen]

F*** YEAH! HOORAY! ADOM THAT DOESN'T CRASH ON WINDOWS! YAY!

[Drevlin]

It's cool but... c'mon, another indie game written in java, please stop!!! We need performance, performance, performance!

[quinnr]

The last two blog posts on the blog says "JADE IS COMING - 3", and then "JADE IS COMING - 2" and both were today. So can we expect it to be released today? xD

[SalmonGod]

This is indeed unexpected.  Wow.  I still remember being 15 years old and reading the announcement of JADE the very day that it was first posted in 1998.  I was high on daydreams over the promises for at least a week.  I checked the website frequently for probably over a year before giving up.  So yeah.  This is something.

Though to be completely honest... I have a hard time imagining that I will play it much in preference to DF.  Toady kind of came along and filled the void left by the years of silence following Biskup's hype.  And this isn't a matter of fanboyish loyalties or saying that one dev is better than the other.  It's just a matter of timing, and comparing Toady's game design style and methods to Biskup's, DF is just more of a match for me.  I used to love the skill-based system and sheer scope of ADOM, but found the game world too static and difficult.  So much dying and then trying again through all the same locations and such.

So I'm both blown away by this announcement and by my own lack of excitement over it... kind of a strange feeling.  I'll definitely be giving it a try, at least.  He's earned that much on nostalgia alone.

[McTraveller]

It's cool but... c'mon, another indie game written in java, please stop!!!

And I feared I was alone in this opinion.

What's funny is I don't even know why I have such a bad feeling about Java.  For some reason it just feels "wrong" to me.

Maybe I can justify my feeling now that Java is owned by Oracle?

[Soadreqm]

It's cool but... c'mon, another indie game written in java, please stop!!! We need performance, performance, performance!

You need a better computer. I suggest you try scavenging through the trashcans at the nearest university. >:]

[Bouchart]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Aklyon]

Will JADE have Jades as a possible item/weapon, though?

[quinnr]

It's cool but... c'mon, another indie game written in java, please stop!!! We need performance, performance, performance!

You need a better computer. I suggest you try scavenging through the trashcans at the nearest university. >:]

Java is pretty inefficient, from what I've found. Why speed up people needed to get new computers when you could make it work fine everywhere? xD

[freeformschooler]

Considering Minecraft (a Java game, natch) runs fine at medium-ish settings on my piece of trash, older NETBOOK, I'm guessing a Java roguelike isn't going to slow down some poor bloke's low-end computer given it was made in the last ~8 years.

[FunctionZero]

Considering Minecraft (a Java game, natch) runs fine at medium-ish settings on my piece of trash, older NETBOOK, I'm guessing a Java roguelike isn't going to slow down some poor bloke's low-end computer given it was made in the last ~8 years.

Sure, but roguelikes usually need a lot more processing power to handle all the pathfinding and other stuff to waste the CPU cycles on.
Especially this one, since it was a big world and whatnot.

To contrast, Minecraft doesn't really have anything remotely as complex.

[Dakk]

Correction, DF uses alot of processor power, but most roguelikes don't. My lappy can't run DF at 70 fps, but can run any roguelike absolutely fine, even with near 100 creeps in the screen at a given time (and those ocasions are pretty rare). DF takes alot of processing power due to constant pathfinding calculations, among several other things which most roguely don't have (IE temperature, wheater, several Z levels which are constantly monitored).

Even if its made in java, JADE (if it does get released) shouldn't take more then most roguelikes do. The most processor intensive roguelike I know of is Elona, and even then it runs fine in every machine I've known.

[Anvilfolk]

You guys need to develop some larger software I know I haven't done anything much bigger than a couple thousand lines of code, but even there the difference in productivity is amazing.

Plus, with openGL accessible from java, loads of pretty awesome indie games have been developed in Java. Altitude comes to mind.

[Drevlin]

Both McTraveller and quinnr hit the point.
1) Why should I get a high end computer to run (badly) a program that would run flawlessly in a five years old computer if written in any other (compiled) language?
Also, platform independence can be achieved without any problem with most (all?) languages (Dwarf fortress is the proof)
2) The oracle problem. On linux java has a crappy support, open jdk is still unstable and not all programs run well. So "runs on all platforms" is not a very right statement