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[Thranx]

I think my illustrious equals in the EU misinterpreted my offer. Yes, I'm offering co-colonization rights on Mercury (because there's no way we'll just pack up and leave ), but it's in return for terraforming vessels which would be transferred to US control, to use as we please. I was under the impression that at least one of you guys had developed ship-bound terraforming modules. Installations built in factories require population to run, which requires (a lot of) infrastructure and colony ships.

As far as I am concerned the Resources on Mercury are not worth the cost giving the US a fleet of terraformers.
The EU would happy to participate in the Terraforming of Mercury and even share tech related to Terraforming but any Terraforming vessals built by the EU will have to remain under EU control.
Thus I agree with Sheb

P.S. I am glad that you are all willing to agree to the Thranx directive in one game I built a gate to a Star-swarm inhabited system....

[Sirus]

Welp, can't please everyone. The US thanks it's fellows for their time, and hopes we can come to an agreement at a later date.

((OOC: That's why I was so shocked when Sheb offered 10 terraformers per nation, rather than one XD))

EDIT: Brendan, please arrange the transport of automated mines to Charon as well. Also, how are Mercury's stockpiles looking?

[forsaken1111]

I think I'm gonna bow out for now. As I said before I'm away this weekend and really don't have time to keep up with this. Have fun guys.

[Bremen]

Welp, can't please everyone. The US thanks it's fellows for their time, and hopes we can come to an agreement at a later date.

((OOC: That's why I was so shocked when Sheb offered 10 terraformers per nation, rather than one XD))

EDIT: Brendan, please arrange the transport of automated mines to Charon as well. Also, how are Mercury's stockpiles looking?

It's Bremen, and the stockpiles are currently at 239 corundium and everything else less in proportion.

[Sirus]

@ Bremen: My bad *sweatdrop*

Aw shit, I'm running the States by my lonesome 
So long, Forsaken!

[Bremen]

I think I'm gonna bow out for now. As I said before I'm away this weekend and really don't have time to keep up with this. Have fun guys.

I do hope you'll keep up when you have time, this thread doesn't seem to have a lot of participants.

[Sheb]

Slight edit of the EU's orders.

Spoiler: Orders (click to show/hide)

Space Orders:
--As soon as the first Galileo is completed send it to survey the inner planets starting with Mercury followed by the gas giants and their moons
--Shuttle all automated mines to Mercury. The Freighter will be escorted by two Warlocks and 5 Illustrious. Use of force is authorized in case of threatening actions by US ships. Once we have Infrastructures, start shipping it to Mercury as well.

Production Orders:
-Shipyards:
--Continue to construct  2 more Warlock class BCs.
--As soon as our FC and Turrets are designed design a Famous Frigate biased on the Illustrious class escort but including our new turrets and FC. Likewise, design a Poleaxe BG using the new systems and ditching the active sensors.
--Design a Magazine support GB (SGB) to operate with the Poleaxe. It should have Illumination and an Advanced Search Radar (if possible) as well as decent armor and as many fuel tanks as possible. Make it so that the speed is the same as the Poleaxe and Broadsword
--Retool the Illustrious's shipyard to produce Famous and begin refitting Illustrious to  Famous
--Begin expansion of our large commercial shipyard in order to accommodate the construction of large Terraformers.
--As a third slipway to our 1,000 ton naval shipyard.
--Set production of 6 Poleaxe
-Factories
Set 25% of our industry to build construction factories, 25% to build automated mine and 50% to:
--construct 200 infrastructure
--construct 3 mass drivers
--construct 2 ground force training facilities
--construct another naval shipyard
--began converting mines into automated mines

-Ground Forces
--Continue converting amour cadre to Heavy Assault battalions
--Train a Brigade Headquarter and assign the Heavy Assault Battaillons to it.

Research Orders:
--Finish back ground techs and research components necessary for the Bushmaster
--Finish researching increased terraforming speeds

Other Orders:
--Take the spy team away from Japan and assign it to the US instead.

Do we have a colony ship yet?

Also, we do not wish to go to war with the US, but will defend our colonies and our right (as well as the PRC's and Japan's) to colonize our solar system.

[Bremen]

Do we have a colony ship yet?

Also, we do not wish to go to war with the US, but will defend our colonies and our right (as well as the PRC's and Japan's) to colonize our solar system.

The EU has a colony ship design, if that's what you're asking. The CS Horizons, but the only shipyard that could build it is currently producing a 5th freighter.

[Thranx]

Do we have a colony ship yet?

Also, we do not wish to go to war with the US, but will defend our colonies and our right (as well as the PRC's and Japan's) to colonize our solar system.

The EU has a colony ship design, if that's what you're asking. The CS Horizons, but the only shipyard that could build it is currently producing a 5th freighter.

If the Horizons and Outlander were designed so that if the ship was tooled to produce Horizons it could also produce Outlanders so we should be able to make both given that shipyard has two slips

[Bremen]

Do we have a colony ship yet?

Also, we do not wish to go to war with the US, but will defend our colonies and our right (as well as the PRC's and Japan's) to colonize our solar system.

The EU has a colony ship design, if that's what you're asking. The CS Horizons, but the only shipyard that could build it is currently producing a 5th freighter.

If the Horizons and Outlander were designed so that if the ship was tooled to produce Horizons it could also produce Outlanders so we should be able to make both given that shipyard has two slips

This is not the case.

[Sirus]

When did I say I was gonna infringe on your rights? 

We all have interests in the system. If we respect each others boundaries, war will be avoided.
Respect is, of course, a two-way street.

Edit of the US's orders:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Space Orders: Mercury has enough auto mines for now. Concentrate on the other planets previously listed.

Production Orders: Pause construction of mines. Instead, build two new commercial shipyards. After that, build 10 mass drivers, and then resume auto mine production. Also build enough Spruances to give each carrier an escort.

Research Orders: Unchanged

Other Orders: Please design this ship, using the best engine tech available now:

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Oregon class Colony Ship    14,400 tons     188 Crew     487.8 BP      TCS 288  TH 312  EM 0
1083 km/s     Armour 1-52     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Capacity 21 MSP    Max Repair 16 MSP
Colonists 30000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 5   

Nuclear Thermal Engine E0.9 (5)    Power 62.5    Fuel Use 9%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range 69.4 billion km   (741 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


[Bremen]

When did I say I was gonna infringe on your rights? 

We all have interests in the system. If we respect each others boundaries, war will be avoided.
Respect is, of course, a two-way street.

Edit of the US's orders:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Space Orders: Mercury has enough auto mines for now. Concentrate on the other planets previously listed.

Production Orders: Pause construction of mines. Instead, build two new commercial shipyards. After that, build 10 mass drivers, and then resume auto mine production. Also build enough Spruances to give each carrier an escort.

Research Orders: Unchanged

Other Orders: Please design this ship, using the best engine tech available now:

Code: [Select]

Oregon class Colony Ship    14,400 tons     188 Crew     487.8 BP      TCS 288  TH 312  EM 0
1083 km/s     Armour 1-52     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Capacity 21 MSP    Max Repair 16 MSP
Colonists 30000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 5   

Nuclear Thermal Engine E0.9 (5)    Power 62.5    Fuel Use 9%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range 69.4 billion km   (741 days at full power)

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


Those are kind of strange orders. I have some questions.

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Is there anything you want to use those commercial yards for? Do you want them expanded and start building colony ships? Remember that these are orders for a year. And you already have 5 mass drivers. And how many Spruances do you want per carrier? Should the mass drivers be moved to colonies?

[Sheb]

Well, our right to colonize Mercury for starters. Just because the US were the first to field a geosurvey craft (by ingenious use of fighters) doesn't mean they have to right to claim half of the system's minerals as their own.

But as I said, we do not want war, and we'll be happy to call back our ships if you let us build on Mercury.

[Sirus]

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I didn't realize/forgot that we had mass drivers
Ok, send one each to Deimos, Venus, Charon, and Io. Keep the last one on Earth, and point all the other ones towards Earth.

The first commercial shipyard should be expanded enough to build colony ships, and build maybe three. The second one should be continuously expanded, but should not have a class assigned yet.

Each carrier should have a three-ship escort. I know that the two survey fleets have two each, so they'll need one more.

Can I also see a side-by-side of our current railgun compared to the best laser we could put together now?

@ Sheb: We weren't just the first to survey, we were the first to actually stake a claim and get mining. Somehow I doubt very much that you'd appreciate it if I started dropping colonists on Mars without contributing to the terraforming efforts!
Yet that is not my plan, since you've put effort into making Mars your own.

I really don't appreciate your heavy-handed efforts to provoke tension between us, both by spying on a nation which poses no harm to you and by offering the "choice" between having armed escorts drop your operations on Mercury without compromise or simply standing aside and letting you do so anyway. That is not a choice, that is simple extortion.

[Bremen]

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I didn't realize/forgot that we had mass drivers
Ok, send one each to Deimos, Venus, Charon, and Io. Keep the last one on Earth, and point all the other ones towards Earth.

The first commercial shipyard should be expanded enough to build colony ships, and build maybe three. The second one should be continuously expanded, but should not have a class assigned yet.

Each carrier should have a three-ship escort. I know that the two survey fleets have two each, so they'll need one more.

Can I also see a side-by-side of our current railgun compared to the best laser we could put together now?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Not Mercury?

The best laser the US could build would have a range of 30,000km and deal 3 damage at point blank, diminishing to 1 at range. The current railgun design has a range of 20,000km, deals 4 1 damage shots regardless of range. So better at point defense, but the laser has slightly more range.